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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.
Jeffro

😂 🤦‍♂️
It remains a fact that the Bible does not mention an exile of 70 years.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.
Jeffro

‘scholar’:
The Bible describes in detail by means of history and prophecy of the Jewish Exile which the major Exilic scholar -Rainer Albertz describes it as' catastrophic'. Further, Lamentations in the OT describes it also in great detail.
😂 This is the level of ‘rigour’ I’ve come to expect from ‘scholar’. A good old ‘bait and switch’. The fact that the Jews were exiled at all is uncontested, and you are an academically dishonest fool for trying to conflate the fact that it happened with an unsupported duration. 🤦‍♂️ The Bible never mentions a 70 year exile.
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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

Fisherman:
but looking at the book as if it is inspired
If you want to start with that premise, provide direct evidence that a deity exists and that it is the one you prefer, and also provide a definition and evidence of a specific mechanism for ‘inspiration’. Also clearly indicate the different specific mechanism involved in being ‘spirit directed’.
Until you do that, your tedious circular reasoning is entirely irrational.
349
Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.
Jeffro

‘scholar’:
The one with the pretty charts.
Dismissively referring to ‘pretty charts’ because he can’t actually identify specific errors. 🤦‍♂️ Not that I think it’s not possible there are errors, but all JW nutters can point to is their nutty dogma and not what the Bible actually says. 😂
(The ‘pretty charts’ he refers to can be found at https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/ under Timelines.)
349
Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.
Jeffro

'scholar':
Jonsson's thesis fails
Wrong. 'scholar' attempts to reduce the evidence to merely 'Jonsson's thesis', but all of the scholarly consensus and my own independent analysis agrees with the very well established history of the Neo-Babylonian period.
because it misinterprets the 'seventy years of Jeremiah'
Wrong. 'the seventy years of Jeremiah' is explicitly a period of nations serving Babylon (Jeremiah 25:11-12), with exile directly stated as a punishment only for nations that refused to serve Babylon (Jeremiah 27:8-11), which explicitly ends prior to attention being given to the Jews' return (Jeremiah 29:10-14).
and of the historical fact of the Jewish Exile which lasted for 70 years
Wrong. The Bible doesn't even mention 70 years of exile.
-ended in 537 BCE,
Wrong. The 70 years ended in 539 BCE when Babylon was conquered by Cyrus (2 Chronicles 36:20), and the Jews who returned to build the temple foundations arrived there in 538 BCE.
therefore, it must have begun in 607 BCE.
Wrong wrongedy wrong wrong. Wrong at every turn.
(To Fisherman) Absolutely correct for the shoe fits perfectly.
You doofuses deserve each other. 😂
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

Fisherman:
1. The author of Revelation is God
There is no evidence that a deity exists, let alone that it wrote a specific late 1st/early 2nd century Christian apocalyptic work.
2. Babylon the Great has not been destroyed yet.
There is no rational basis for concluding that the superstitious expectations offered in the story would ever actually eventuate.
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

Fisherman:
Fallacy. Rome was an Empire
Not only does the poor doofus not know what a fallacy is, but apparently also doesn’t realise that Rome was the capital city of the Roman Empire.
349
Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.
Jeffro

‘scholar’:
The date 1914 CE is based on solid exegesis
There is something ‘solid’ that the JW 1914 doctrine could be said to be based on 💩 , but it’s not ‘exegesis’. 😂
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

Fisherman:
The allusion “disgusting thing” is idolatry or the practice of idolatry, and the mother of that cannot be secular which the bible depicts as male.
Nonsense, as usual. The JW interpretation of ‘disgusting thing’ as ‘idolatry’ has no basis in the text. (In Daniel, the ‘disgusting thing’ was the desecration of the temple by Antiochus IV, specifically with pork. In Revelation, the “disgusting thing’ was the Roman armies in Jerusalem. Neither of these are ‘idols’.) The notion that ‘secular’ is ‘male’ is also nonsense (for example, the city of Tyre is depicted as female in Isaiah).
121
Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
Jeffro

🤦‍♂️
Neither was it the mother of all disgusting things of the earth as I have explained
You know it’s a metaphor right? 😂