if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
‘scholar’:
The first reference is Zech 1:12 by means of an oracle on the 24th day,11th month in King Darius 2nd year- 519 BCE.
That passage includes an expression of frustration about a period that had not yet ended, and very obviously doesn’t refer to a period that ended decades earlier. You’re really not very good at this.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
BruceX:
It bothers me that I believed this and never took a close look at it.
Don’t let it bother you too much. This is how the Watch Tower Society operates, and they’ve been honing their manipulation techniques for over a century. They tell you not to do research anywhere else, and they ignore discussion of verses that contradict their position. They also generate a false perception of ‘thorough’ Bible study by repeatedly going over their favoured verses. For example, see here.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
😂 wrong again doofus, I have fully researched the entire subject entirely independently. I don’t need to ‘read widely’ to be right (and you ignore what they say anyway).
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
My statements are backed by facts and agreement from the entire body of experts in all relevant fields. You continue to spout drivel. The fact that you think you’re still right says everything it needs to. 😂
it was every jw taking part in the preaching work.
lol.. (matthew 24:45) “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?.
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BoogerMan:
It was every JW taking part in the preaching work. LOL.
No, you’ve made a false equivocation, based on misconstruing who they identified as the ‘domestics’.
https://jeffro77.wordpress.com/index/pure-worship-ezekiel-revisited-part-2/#FDS
https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.
08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
"more than 200 lands"🤦♂️Why do they do this to themselves? 😂 This reminds me of the terribly awkward exchange in the Australian Royal Commission where Spinks(?) is asked to define a 'land'. They are actually recognised in 162 countries (and clearly they are not "recognized as law-abiding citizens" in other countries where their activities are illegal).
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
Fisherman:
Immaterial deflection.
Your skills at identifying what is and is not relevant and also of fallacies are remarkably deficient.
The subject matter here is 70 years in Babylon
Actually, the subject matter is the 'faithful and discreet slave', though the JW drivel about 607 is foundational to their interpretations about that subject.
which Zechariah confirms.
Wrong. Zechariah doesn't refer to 70 years of exile at all, nor to Babylon's 70 years. Zechariah (7:1-7) refers to annual fasts in the 5th and 7th months, which by the 9th month of Darius' 4th year (518 BCE) had been held for 70 years. This places the first year of those fasts in 587 BCE when Jerusalem was destroyed.
537+70= 607 —If you forgot the subject.
The Jews arrived in Jerusalem in 538 BCE rather than 537 so you're wrong there anyway, but that was only after Babylon was called to account in 539 BCE when the 70 years actually ended (Jeremiah 25:12). 539+70=609, which is the year that Babylon destroyed Assyria's final capital at Harran (compare Ezekiel 27:2, 23; Isaiah 23:13-15).
You can go now too.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
Poor doofus. I know you’re too far gone to see beyond your indoctrination. I comment on your nonsense for the benefit of other readers or as it amuses me. As you’ve been sufficiently trounced, you can go now.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
😂
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
'scholar':
The subject of the Jewish Exile is uncontested by scholars especiallt Jewish scholars but remains unknown amongst WT critics and Carl Jonsson
Trying to imply that Jewish scholars support a 70 year exile is such an obvious lie. 🤦♂️ Jewish Virtual Library:
The Chaldeans, following standard Mesopotamian practice, deported the Jews after they had conquered Jerusalem in 597 BC. The deportations were large, but certainly didn't involve the entire nation. Somewhere around 10,000 people were forced to relocate to the city of Babylon, the capital of the Chaldean empire. In 586 BC, Judah itself ceased to be an independent kingdom, and the earlier deportees found themselves without a homeland, without a state, and without a nation.
(Note that Jewish tradition places the destruction in 586 BCE, however, 587 BCE is the correct year. See 586 or 587?)
