Well, they said it would end in October 1914 before that. When that dismally failed, they reconned it as ‘well something happened in that year, though it was an entirely different thing in the wrong month, but we’ll run with it’. 😂
Posts by Jeffro
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349Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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Jeffro
🤦♂️ He thinks he’s being ironic, and he is, but not in the way he intends. 😂
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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Jeffro
‘scholar’:
You have replied in haste without actually reflecting and meditating on the passages of scripture listed for your careful and thoughtful reflection.
What a load of drivel. 😂 Basically, what he means is you have to pretend the verses don’t mean what they actually say because mommy Watch Tower says they ‘really’ mean something else. 🤦♂️ And he doesn’t even understand that he’s an Adventist.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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Jeffro
Ha ha. The only passage that mentions ‘exile’ at all says attention would be given to the Jews’ return after Babylon’s 70 years had ended, and none of them refer to 70 years of exile. No wonder he wasn’t willing to provide quotes 😂
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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Jeffro
‘scholar’:
The Bible does describe the 70 years as a period of Exile
Must be a verse I missed 😂. Provide a citation and quote for this elusive verse that mentions 70 years of exile. 😂
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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Jeffro
‘scholar’:
The use of the number '70' in Jewish literature was usually used in reference to the Jewish Exile as shown by the immediate context of chapter 7 note particularly verse 7.
Entirely wrong, as usual. The Bible never mentions 70 years of exile. It does, on the other hand, say that ‘serving Babylon’ was the way to avoid exile (Jeremiah 27:8-11). (Funny that the Watch Tower Society barely ever even mentions verse 11 let alone quote it.) Have you read the Bible? I have to wonder sometimes. 😂
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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Jeffro
‘scholar’:
Being 'near' is not good enough for it raises ambiguity. Zechariah does not say that the 70 years of fasting is reached in Darius' 4th year but only that he received the vision in that year referring to 70 years in the past. That is your problem.
No problem for me whatsoever. The author could have chosen the year the temple was actually completed and said 73 years, but this would lack the favoured use of the number 70 in Jewish literature. Your claim that Zechariah only ‘received a vision’ in the 4th year is entirely contrary to the passage.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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Jeffro
🤦♂️
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman inif anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
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Jeffro
‘scholar’:
If it was in the 4th year- 518 BCE then why was avision received two years earlier.
Pointless misdirection indicating you don’t understand this type of literature. The author wasn’t writing a diary as it happened. It was all written later. The ‘vision’ is a narrative device framing the purpose of the period - that had not yet ended in early 519BCE - as ‘denunciation’. Chapter 7 is quite clear about the timing of when 70 years of fasting were reached.
the temple was completed in 515 BCE
I correctly state on that page that it was near rather than in the year the temple was completed. I also clearly state, as does Zechariah, that 70 years of fasting is reached in Darius’ 4th year. None of this is particularly difficult. I suppose I could simply omit the part about the temple as it seems to confuse some of the dimmer readers.