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1914 is just one of many dates proposed by Adventists following the great disappointment. It is complete nonsense, and the convoluted selection of â2520 yearsâ doesnât even have any direct biblical basis.
Posts by Jeffro
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282How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Jeffro
âscholarâ:
The problem with your opinion and charts comes down to Methodology and that has now been recognized by Chronologists such as Rodger Young who first introduced the term into scholarly journals in his advocacy of 587 BCE by means of the use of Decision Tables Analysis. But again Young fails to account for the Jewish Exile even though he has produced studies on the Jewish Sabbaths and Jubille.
Irrelevant misdirection. Though Youngâs method is sound, BM21946 definitively identifies the placement of the first siege relative to Nebuchadnezzarâs reign. Jeremiah 52:28-29 definitively identifies the placement of the final siege relative to the first siege.
The period of 49 years from the destruction of Jerusalem until the Jewsâ return does indeed fit very well with the concept of jubilee years and paying off sabbaths from Leviticus though.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Jeffro
âscholarâ:
The jokes on you as you do not recognize the fact of the Jewish Exile of 70 years which falsifies your laughable 587 BCE for the Fall of Jerusalem
đ Yes, the âjokesâ is âon meâ and the entire scholarly community because a minor Adventist sect insists on an alternative date for a historical event đ¤Śââď¸. This is called delusion.
And letâs not pretend that there is any source mentioning 70 years of exile. The Jews were exiled from early 597BCE and some returned in 538 BCE. Many never left Babylon at all.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Jeffro
âscholarâ:
Not so for the Bible clearly indicates the Parousia beginning with the king's arrival must precede the Great Tribulation as shown by means of the successive events described in the Olivet Discourse.
Poor deluded âscholarâ. Just another example of the fact that JWs donât really care what the Bible actually says where it disagrees with their doctrines.
Matthew 24:21, 26â27, 29â30: for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the worldâs beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. ... 26 Therefore, if people say to you, âLook! He is in the wilderness,â do not go out; âLook! He is in the inner rooms,â do not believe it. 27 For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence of the Son of man will be. ... 29 âImmediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mark 13:19, 24â26: for those days will be days of a tribulation such as has not occurred from the beginning of the creation that God created until that time, and will not occur again. ... 24 âBut in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, 25 and the stars will be falling out of heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. 26 And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Jeffro
Can you imagine if JWs did abandon 1914 though. Poor old dupes like âscholarâ would have to start saying 1914 and 607 BCE never actually made any sense. It would be hilarious.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Jeffro
The fact that you think my âmethodologyâ is âcomplexâ only demonstrates your own inability to comprehend quite simple deductive reasoning. There was no 70 year exile. No source mentions an exile of 70 years. đ¤ˇââď¸ đ
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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âscholarâ:
Then is no historical consensus for 587 BCE as the date for Jerusalem's Fall as most reputable scholars prefer 586 BCE thus 587 BCE is not the historical date but 607 BCE is the only validated date for the destruction of Jerusalem based on the historic Jewish Exile of 70 years.
Entirely wrong. Based on the secularly agreed facts of Nebuchadnezzarâs reign along with what the Bible says, 587 BCE is the correct year. But JWs donât really care what the Bible actually says. 607BCE has no support from any reputable source at all.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Are there any new ideas coming from the Watchtower Society?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy brother ( who is an elder ) tries very hard to get me back to the meetings.
he calls me every time he and his son ( he's also an elder) give a public talk.
they send me the zoom i.d.
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Jeffro
slimboyfat:
Is that a change or am I reading too much into it?
Youâre reading too much into it. The âstudyâ book is very dumbed down, and the specifics of just how Jesus purportedly âhelpedâ with âcreationâ are (necessarily) vague and arbitrary fiction, but there is no doctrinal change here. Insight was revised in 2021 and the paragraph in question has not been changed.