i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
‘scholar’:
In fact, the said scholar has long argued that the 70 years were of three elements: Servitude to Babylon-Exile in Babylon- Desolation of Judah by Babylon.
Yes, we’re painfully aware of your frequently repeated parroting of Adventist nonsense that distorts the clearly stated application of the Bible’s references to all the nations serving Babylon for 70 years until it was conquered by the Persians. 🤦♂️ 🙄
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
‘scholar’:
It is like this. You make a claim about the BM 21946 that it supports 587 CE which I reject because I claim that the Babylonian Chronicle supports 607 BCE rather than 587 BCE.
You’re seriously doubling down on this nonsense? I didn’t make any such claim. BM21946 does not directly support Jerusalem’s destruction in 587BCE, because it doesn’t mention that siege at all. Because 607 is definitely wrong, the tablet naturally doesn’t support that year either.
The correct year is 587BCE. Repetition of Thiele’s dating from the 1940s does not trump the fact that the source material, including the Bible, BM21946 and thousands of contemporary cuneiform records, only allows for the event occurring in 587BCE.
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
‘scholar’:
You first made the claim that BM 21946 supports 587 BCE rather than 607 BCE
I never actually said that at all, and I initially thought the inept ‘scholar’ was simply lying. But it occurs to me that he was just confused about my correct statement that modern scholarship (as opposed to modern parroting of older scholarship) favours 587BCE because I included a parenthetical clause that this is particularly since the publication of BM 21946 established dating for earlier events in Nebuchadnezzar’s reign. He really is quite tedious. 🤦♂️
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
Poor ‘scholar’, addled by years of the Watch Tower Society misrepresenting the Bible, can’t understand what ‘all the nations serving Babylon’ means. The context of 70 years of all the nations serving Babylon is quite clear, and Jeremiah’s description of the ‘yoke’ even more so.
Even the Watch Tower Society’s own Isaiah commentary recognises that it is 70 years of Babylon’s dominance. 😂
Poor pitiful ‘scholar’.
bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
Population growth is generally exponential, not geometric, but the rate also is not consistent due to various factors.
Because Noah is a fictional character adapted from the Gilgamesh epic, the chance of him and his family populating the planet is exactly zero.
According to the fictional chronology in the Bible, the ‘flood’ occurred about 4535 years ago. This varies from JW chronology mainly due to the erroneous 20 year gap in JW chronology and the incorrect interpretation of Israel (which didn’t exist yet) ‘going into slavery’ because of that one time Isaac was teased by his brother.
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
‘scholar’:
You cannot even show a verse that say '70 years of Babylon's domination'
🤦♂️
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
Longlivetherenegades:
Where in the Bible can you show me word for word Chislev 1st 607 BCE. Where?😎
No need to go that far. He can’t even show the verse that say ‘70 years of exile’ 😂
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
I owe you no explanations. Several threads on this forum are awaiting responses from you. You previously repeatedly refused to address them.
I have already provided information confirming 587 BCE is the correct year based on details in the Bible and the known chronology of Nebuchadnezzar’s reign.
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
🤦♂️
’scholar’:
Prove it. I have a copy of BM 21946 so list the reasons for your stupid claim and I will argue that this tablet proves 607 BCE rather than 587 BCE
Huh? The tablet confirms the placement of the first siege in early 597 BCE, and other additional information from the Bible confirms the destruction of Jerusalem in 587 BCE. BM 21946 does not itself confirm the year of Jerusalem’s destruction at all. But feel free to present your trite case for this idiotic claim that you can prove 607 from BM 21946. 😂
And the tablet also contradicts the Watch Tower Society’s interpretation of the events in the early part of Nebuchadnezzar’s reign.
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
‘scholar’:
Thus current scholarship as shown by many reference works that 586 BCE remains the best candidate.
The assignment of 586 BCE is based on Thiele from the 1940s. 586 is still frequently parroted, but modern scholarship, particularly after the publication of BM21946, favours 587 BCE.
