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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

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  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Jeffro

  Rattigan350:

  There are many prophecies stating that Jesus will become king. But he didn't. He lived and died and did not become king.

  At least you got that part right.
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  Are You Ready for the Most Important Day of the Year?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  luke 22:14 so when the hour came, he reclined at the table along with the apostles.

  and he said to them: “i have greatly desired to eat this passover with you before i suffer; 16 for i tell you, i will not eat it again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of god.” 17 and accepting a cup, he gave thanks and said: “take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves, 18 for i tell you, from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.”.

  19 also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “this means my body, which is to be given in your behalf.

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  Jeffro

  I'm looking forward to when they say Nisan 14 will fall in mid-May like they insist happened in 588 BCE. 🤣🤷‍♂️
  
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Jeffro

  Saying Jesus 'sits on his throne' at some future time is (intentionally) vague language. It isn't necessarily synonymous with 'being made king', and they can play games with Jesus 'sitting' and 'standing' at various times. But even if they completely move Jesus' supposed 'enthronement' away from 1914, that year is still crucial for their erroneous 'end of the 7 times', the 'start of Jesus' 'presence'', the 'start of the last days', and their claim of being 'selected in 1919'. So while it might sound significant, it's a bit of a non-event really. And their end-times doctrines still remain inconsistent with the supposed order of events laid out in the Bible anyway.
  
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  2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

  number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).

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  'Land'	No. of Congs.	New Congregations	Publishers per Congregation
  Albania	83	0	65
  American Samoa	3	0	41
  Andorra	3	0	55
  Angola	2567	28	64
  Anguilla	1	0	55
  Antigua	7	0	66
  Argentina	1938	-7	79
  Armenia	134	-1	84
  Aruba	14	0	77
  Australia	726	-13	97
  Austria	283	-4	78
  Azerbaijan	23	5	74
  Azores	15	0	53
  Bahamas	28	0	60
  Bangladesh	6	0	56
  Barbados	30	0	76
  Belarus	82	-1	74
  Belgium	338	2	77
  Belize	53	-1	46
  Benin	260	14	54
  Bermuda	5	0	77
  Bolivia	452	4	64
  Bonaire	2	0	66
  Bosnia and Herzegovina	16	0	59
  Botswana	42	-1	55
  Brazil	12637	198	71
  Britain	1599	-15	88
  Bulgaria	57	-1	49
  Burkina Faso	50	2	36
  Burundi	374	93	46
  Cambodia	17	0	65
  Cameroon	500	1	86
  Canada	1164	-13	102
  Cape Verde	35	0	64
  Cayman Islands	3	0	94
  Central African Republic	64	-1	45
  Chad	23	1	36
  Chile	964	9	89
  Chuuk	2	0	12
  Colombia	2271	4	81
  Congo, Dem. Republic of	4385	348	56
  Congo, Republic of	123	7	73
  Cook Islands	3	0	61
  Costa Rica	429	-6	74
  Côte d’Ivoire	227	-4	53
  Croatia	57	0	81
  Cuba	1366	-33	63
  Curaçao	24	-1	81
  Cyprus	41	1	74
  Czech Republic	217	5	76
  Denmark	172	-2	84
  Dominica	10	0	39
  Dominican Republic	536	-3	71
  Ecuador	1212	8	82
  El Salvador	607	-47	62
  Equatorial Guinea	30	-1	81
  Estonia	54	-1	75
  Eswatini	76	0	42
  Ethiopia	206	23	54
  Falkland Islands	1	0	12
  Faroe Islands	4	0	33
  Fiji	60	-2	49
  Finland	272	-3	67
  France	1461	-16	94
  French Guiana	46	1	62
  Gabon	59	0	75
  Gambia	5	0	59
  Georgia	224	0	84
  Germany	2002	-18	86
  Ghana	2484	88	61
  Gibraltar	2	0	77
  Greece	345	-9	80
  Greenland	5	0	23
  Grenada	9	0	58
  Guadeloupe	118	0	71
  Guam	9	0	77
  Guatemala	825	-27	47
  Guinea	27	2	43
  Guinea-Bissau	4	0	48
  Guyana	46	-1	70
  Haiti	262	-9	66
  Honduras	418	-11	52
  Hong Kong	70	4	78
  Hungary	283	-5	75
  Iceland	7	0	57
  India	999	52	57
  Indonesia	491	15	62
  Ireland	121	0	64
  Israel	32	-1	65
  Italy	2804	-39	89
  Jamaica	152	0	71
  Japan	2888	-5	74
  Kazakhstan	229	-3	75
  Kenya	605	-18	49
  Kiribati	2	0	49
  Korea, Republic of	1252	-9	85
  Kosovo	8	0	29
  Kosrae	1	0	9
  Kyrgyzstan	86	-3	59
  Latvia	29	-1	72
  Lesotho	81	-1	48
  Liberia	146	5	50
  Liechtenstein	1	0	94
  Lithuania	41	1	71
  Luxembourg	31	1	70
  Macao	6	0	61
  Madagascar	841	15	46
  Madeira	19	0	62
  Malawi	1882	51	52
  Malaysia	119	-2	47
  Mali	6	0	58
  Malta	11	0	77
  Marshall Islands	4	0	31
  Martinique	57	0	84
  Mauritius	27	0	77
  Mayotte	3	0	45
  Mexico	12706	-175	67
  Moldova	195	-6	91
  Mongolia	8	0	51
  Montenegro	7	0	53
  Montserrat	1	0	35
  Mozambique	1651	100	49
  Myanmar	96	5	53
  Namibia	47	1	55
  Nauru	1	0	15
  Nepal	43	0	65
  Netherlands	346	-7	84
  Nevis	1	0	76
  New Caledonia	34	-2	77
  New Zealand	170	0	85
  Nicaragua	466	-5	61
  Niger	9	0	36
  Nigeria	6071	-10	62
  Niue	1	0	19
  North Macedonia	23	-1	53
  Norway	162	-1	73
  Pakistan	16	0	70
  Palau	2	0	36
  Palestinian Territories	2	0	38
  Panama	310	-7	59
  Papua New Guinea	89	-2	53
  Paraguay	186	-11	59
  Peru	1551	0	84
  Philippines	3552	41	69
  Pohnpei	1	0	50
  Poland	1267	-5	91
  Portugal	653	-3	80
  Puerto Rico	227	-3	100
  Réunion	41	0	84
  Rodrigues	1	0	65
  Romania	528	-5	75
  Rota		-2
  Rwanda	593	31	53
  Saba		-3
  Saipan	3	0	71
  Samoa	12	0	44
  San Marino	2	0	98
  São Tomé and Príncipe	14	0	63
  Senegal	29	0	52
  Serbia	60	-1	62
  Seychelles	5	0	68
  Sierra Leone	42	1	56
  Slovakia	134	1	84
  Slovenia	27	-1	64
  Solomon Islands	50	1	34
  South Africa	1966	-33	50
  South Sudan	34	1	51
  Spain	1397	-19	87
  Sri Lanka	98	-2	71
  St. Barthélemy	1	0	37
  St. Eustatius	1	0	27
  St. Helena	3	0	38
  St. Kitts	3	0	80
  St. Lucia	11	0	70
  St. Maarten	4	0	76
  St. Martin	5	0	56
  St. Pierre and Miquelon	1	0	17
  St. Vincent & the Grenadines	8	0	35
  Sudan	13	0	41
  Suriname	55	-1	58
  Sweden	280	-1	80
  Switzerland	258	0	77
  Tahiti	45	0	70
  Taiwan	177	-2	64
  Tanzania	417	1	48
  Thailand	144	2	37
  Timor-Leste	5	0	76
  Tinian	1	0	10
  Togo	363	14	63
  Tonga	3	0	67
  Trinidad & Tobago	130	0	80
  Turkey	71	1	78
  Turks and Caicos	7	0	47
  Tuvalu	1	0	50
  Uganda	175	8	54
  Ukraine	1234	-195	85
  United States of America	11942	-98	102
  Uruguay	149	0	79
  Vanuatu	13	0	46
  Venezuela	1700	-14	78
  Virgin Islands, British	4	0	55
  Virgin Islands, U.S.	8	0	64
  Wallis & Futuna Islands	2	1	31
  Yap	1	0	31
  Zambia	3605	76	59
  Zimbabwe	961	-75	49
  33 Other Lands	2778	-32	75
  Grand Total (239 Lands)	118177	217	73
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  Jeffro

  The ‘growth’ in various European countries is mostly people who left Ukraine. Most of the European countries with growth did not have a corresponding increase in baptisms, and while there is some lag between ‘unbaptised publisher’ and ‘baptised’, it doesn’t account for it.
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  2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

  number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).

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  raymond frantz:

  Total Congregations: 118,177 (=up from 117,960, a surprising increase but nevertheless a miniscule increase of just 0.18% OR 217 congregations. Of course the real metric here should be how many KH's closed down but of course they won't release this information. Is it possible that they artificially increase the number of congregations to show an increase? Quite possibly)

  There was a net increase of congregations of 217, but it's not particularly impressive when it's broken down further.

  The 'Democratic' Republic of Congo (with a 12% increase, 9% of which was newly baptised) got 348 new congregations. (Note that these increases include compensating for the decreases during COVID, not able to preach, delaying baptism etc. Actual increase since 2019 is 8.06% or about 2% per year.)
  

  Brazil got 198 extra congregations, even though it reported growth of 0% (actually a net decrease of 3,336 publishers).

  Not very surprisingly, the number of congregations in Ukraine went down (by 195).

  All up, 1061 congregations were dissolved, offset by 1490 added in other 'lands'.

  'Land'	New Congregations
  Ukraine	-195
  Mexico	-175
  United States of America	-98
  Zimbabwe	-75
  El Salvador	-47
  Italy	-39
  South Africa	-33
  Cuba	-33
  33 Other Lands	-32
  Guatemala	-27
  Spain	-19
  Germany	-18
  Kenya	-18
  France	-16
  Britain	-15
  Venezuela	-14
  Canada	-13
  Australia	-13
  Paraguay	-11
  Honduras	-11
  Nigeria	-10
  Korea, Republic of	-9
  Greece	-9
  Haiti	-9
  Argentina	-7
  Panama	-7
  Netherlands	-7
  Moldova	-6
  Costa Rica	-6
  Japan	-5
  Hungary	-5
  Poland	-5
  Romania	-5
  Nicaragua	-5
  Côte d’Ivoire	-4
  Austria	-4
  Kazakhstan	-3
  Dominican Republic	-3
  Finland	-3
  Puerto Rico	-3
  Kyrgyzstan	-3
  Portugal	-3
  Saba	-3
  Fiji	-2
  Sri Lanka	-2
  Papua New Guinea	-2
  Malaysia	-2
  Taiwan	-2
  Denmark	-2
  New Caledonia	-2
  Rota	-2
  Lesotho	-1
  Guyana	-1
  Norway	-1
  Botswana	-1
  Serbia	-1
  Latvia	-1
  Slovenia	-1
  Armenia	-1
  Equatorial Guinea	-1
  Curaçao	-1
  Belize	-1
  Belarus	-1
  North Macedonia	-1
  Estonia	-1
  Israel	-1
  Suriname	-1
  Central African Republic	-1
  Sweden	-1
  Bulgaria	-1
  Peru	0
  Switzerland	0
  Vanuatu	0
  Albania	0
  Eswatini	0
  Senegal	0
  Mayotte	0
  Trinidad & Tobago	0
  Kiribati	0
  Sudan	0
  Cambodia	0
  Réunion	0
  New Zealand	0
  Mali	0
  Kosrae	0
  Tuvalu	0
  Chuuk	0
  American Samoa	0
  St. Barthélemy	0
  Palau	0
  Greenland	0
  Turks and Caicos	0
  Virgin Islands, British	0
  Pohnpei	0
  Bosnia and Herzegovina	0
  Bermuda	0
  Guam	0
  Mongolia	0
  Samoa	0
  Montserrat	0
  Guinea-Bissau	0
  Virgin Islands, U.S.	0
  São Tomé and Príncipe	0
  Macao	0
  St. Vincent & the Grenadines	0
  Uruguay	0
  Kosovo	0
  Croatia	0
  Dominica	0
  Barbados	0
  Andorra	0
  Jamaica	0
  Azores	0
  St. Kitts	0
  Cayman Islands	0
  Aruba	0
  St. Martin	0
  Seychelles	0
  San Marino	0
  Bahamas	0
  Saipan	0
  Cape Verde	0
  Tahiti	0
  Martinique	0
  Grenada	0
  Gabon	0
  Yap	0
  Tinian	0
  St. Eustatius	0
  Nevis	0
  Niue	0
  Cook Islands	0
  Guadeloupe	0
  St. Lucia	0
  St. Maarten	0
  Madeira	0
  Nepal	0
  Antigua	0
  Rodrigues	0
  Montenegro	0
  Timor-Leste	0
  Marshall Islands	0
  Bangladesh	0
  Faroe Islands	0
  Iceland	0
  Gambia	0
  Pakistan	0
  Palestinian Territories	0
  Bonaire	0
  Mauritius	0
  Malta	0
  Liechtenstein	0
  St. Helena	0
  Anguilla	0
  Nauru	0
  St. Pierre and Miquelon	0
  Niger	0
  Gibraltar	0
  Falkland Islands	0
  Ireland	0
  Tonga	0
  Georgia	0
  Cameroon	1
  Tanzania	1
  Lithuania	1
  French Guiana	1
  Namibia	1
  Solomon Islands	1
  Luxembourg	1
  Cyprus	1
  Wallis & Futuna Islands	1
  Slovakia	1
  South Sudan	1
  Sierra Leone	1
  Chad	1
  Turkey	1
  Belgium	2
  Burkina Faso	2
  Guinea	2
  Thailand	2
  Colombia	4
  Hong Kong	4
  Bolivia	4
  Myanmar	5
  Czech Republic	5
  Liberia	5
  Azerbaijan	5
  Congo, Republic of	7
  Ecuador	8
  Uganda	8
  Chile	9
  Benin	14
  Togo	14
  Indonesia	15
  Madagascar	15
  Ethiopia	23
  Angola	28
  Rwanda	31
  Philippines	41
  Malawi	51
  India	52
  Zambia	76
  Ghana	88
  Burundi	93
  Mozambique	100
  Brazil	198
  Congo, Dem. Republic of	348
  Grand Total (239 Lands)	217
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  Jeffro

  Atlantis:

  I don't know if this is accurate but you can take a look.https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/184g8nb/service_report_increase/

  "Memorial attendance worldwide was 20,461,767, an increase of nearly 4 percent". Sounds good until you consider the fact that there was still a pandemic going on in 2022. In reality, the 2023 Memorial attendance was less than the 2019 Memorial attendance (20,919,041).

  What actually happened with Memorial attendance:
  

  • 2019: 20,919,041
  • 2020: 17,844,773 (COVID pandemic, ad hoc arrangements)
  • 2021: 21,367,603 (COVID pandemic with video attendance, harder for PIMOs to avoid)
  • 2022: 19,721,672 (COVID pandemic, in-person meetings resumed)
  • 2023: 20,461,767
    
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  Pyramid shaped table

  by MissDaSilva in

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  Jeffro

  Omg… a… triangular table… Illuminati! 🤦‍♂️
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  The FDS Photoshop

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  for those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.

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  from the february 2024 watchtower .

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  FFGhost:

  The funny part is, the original photo comes from the “God’s Kingdom Rules” book, published in 2014.

  The photo in that book (page 130) is different. They are in different positions, though it appears to be from the same meeting as they are all wearing the same clothing.

  However, the version of the book issued in June 2023 has replaced the image with one obscuring the individuals.

  
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  2023-Novermber-Files!

  by Atlantis in

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  2023-november files.. 2023 shepherd the flock of god--elder manual in english.

  2023-november announcements and reminders.download..https://www.filemail.com/d/thynixcxksaypqy orhttps://we.tl/t-lciljrizhsgrandpa!

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  Jeffro

  The letter provides a list of changes, but a sentence that shows that JWs do provide settings where JWs work with minors was quietly deleted without mention (chapter 2, section 3, point 3 in 2021 version) ...

  Determining whether it is advisable for another publisher to conduct a Bible study with the child of a Christian parent.