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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

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  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Jeffro

  ‘scholar’:

  The precise beginning of the Great War is disputed for some historians would date the event a little later but certainly by October or the Fall of that year,1914 the Great War had started which nicely coincided with the ousting of Satan to the earth with great rage.

  Bald faced lies! WWI started in July 1914, with some significant declarations in August. No historians say it started in October, and there is no basis for imaginary claims about Satan being ‘thrown out of heaven’ (an interpretation made up by Rutherford several years after Russell’s death, replacing Russell’s belief that the ‘dragon’ represented pagan rulers defeated by papal Rome).
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Jeffro

  ‘scholar’ continues with the same vague nutbag interpretations that he’s done for years. Everything he says has been thoroughly debunked. Most amusing, his position requires a solstice on a date that is physically impossible. It’s just pathetic.
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Jeffro

  Already trounced you at every turn before.
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Jeffro

  ‘scholar’:

  Current and past scholarship has validated 1914 CE

  🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Jeffro

  Rattigan350:

  If prophesies called for Jesus to be king, and he hadn't yet, then that was yet for the future of his time.

  No, they were just wrong. Just like you.
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Jeffro

  Rattigan350:

  There are many prophecies stating that Jesus will become king. But he didn't. He lived and died and did not become king.

  At least you got that part right.
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  Are You Ready for the Most Important Day of the Year?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  luke 22:14 so when the hour came, he reclined at the table along with the apostles.

  and he said to them: “i have greatly desired to eat this passover with you before i suffer; 16 for i tell you, i will not eat it again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of god.” 17 and accepting a cup, he gave thanks and said: “take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves, 18 for i tell you, from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.”.

  19 also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “this means my body, which is to be given in your behalf.

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  Jeffro

  I'm looking forward to when they say Nisan 14 will fall in mid-May like they insist happened in 588 BCE. 🤣🤷‍♂️
  
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Jeffro

  Saying Jesus 'sits on his throne' at some future time is (intentionally) vague language. It isn't necessarily synonymous with 'being made king', and they can play games with Jesus 'sitting' and 'standing' at various times. But even if they completely move Jesus' supposed 'enthronement' away from 1914, that year is still crucial for their erroneous 'end of the 7 times', the 'start of Jesus' 'presence'', the 'start of the last days', and their claim of being 'selected in 1919'. So while it might sound significant, it's a bit of a non-event really. And their end-times doctrines still remain inconsistent with the supposed order of events laid out in the Bible anyway.
  
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  2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

  number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).

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  'Land'	No. of Congs.	New Congregations	Publishers per Congregation
  Albania	83	0	65
  American Samoa	3	0	41
  Andorra	3	0	55
  Angola	2567	28	64
  Anguilla	1	0	55
  Antigua	7	0	66
  Argentina	1938	-7	79
  Armenia	134	-1	84
  Aruba	14	0	77
  Australia	726	-13	97
  Austria	283	-4	78
  Azerbaijan	23	5	74
  Azores	15	0	53
  Bahamas	28	0	60
  Bangladesh	6	0	56
  Barbados	30	0	76
  Belarus	82	-1	74
  Belgium	338	2	77
  Belize	53	-1	46
  Benin	260	14	54
  Bermuda	5	0	77
  Bolivia	452	4	64
  Bonaire	2	0	66
  Bosnia and Herzegovina	16	0	59
  Botswana	42	-1	55
  Brazil	12637	198	71
  Britain	1599	-15	88
  Bulgaria	57	-1	49
  Burkina Faso	50	2	36
  Burundi	374	93	46
  Cambodia	17	0	65
  Cameroon	500	1	86
  Canada	1164	-13	102
  Cape Verde	35	0	64
  Cayman Islands	3	0	94
  Central African Republic	64	-1	45
  Chad	23	1	36
  Chile	964	9	89
  Chuuk	2	0	12
  Colombia	2271	4	81
  Congo, Dem. Republic of	4385	348	56
  Congo, Republic of	123	7	73
  Cook Islands	3	0	61
  Costa Rica	429	-6	74
  Côte d’Ivoire	227	-4	53
  Croatia	57	0	81
  Cuba	1366	-33	63
  Curaçao	24	-1	81
  Cyprus	41	1	74
  Czech Republic	217	5	76
  Denmark	172	-2	84
  Dominica	10	0	39
  Dominican Republic	536	-3	71
  Ecuador	1212	8	82
  El Salvador	607	-47	62
  Equatorial Guinea	30	-1	81
  Estonia	54	-1	75
  Eswatini	76	0	42
  Ethiopia	206	23	54
  Falkland Islands	1	0	12
  Faroe Islands	4	0	33
  Fiji	60	-2	49
  Finland	272	-3	67
  France	1461	-16	94
  French Guiana	46	1	62
  Gabon	59	0	75
  Gambia	5	0	59
  Georgia	224	0	84
  Germany	2002	-18	86
  Ghana	2484	88	61
  Gibraltar	2	0	77
  Greece	345	-9	80
  Greenland	5	0	23
  Grenada	9	0	58
  Guadeloupe	118	0	71
  Guam	9	0	77
  Guatemala	825	-27	47
  Guinea	27	2	43
  Guinea-Bissau	4	0	48
  Guyana	46	-1	70
  Haiti	262	-9	66
  Honduras	418	-11	52
  Hong Kong	70	4	78
  Hungary	283	-5	75
  Iceland	7	0	57
  India	999	52	57
  Indonesia	491	15	62
  Ireland	121	0	64
  Israel	32	-1	65
  Italy	2804	-39	89
  Jamaica	152	0	71
  Japan	2888	-5	74
  Kazakhstan	229	-3	75
  Kenya	605	-18	49
  Kiribati	2	0	49
  Korea, Republic of	1252	-9	85
  Kosovo	8	0	29
  Kosrae	1	0	9
  Kyrgyzstan	86	-3	59
  Latvia	29	-1	72
  Lesotho	81	-1	48
  Liberia	146	5	50
  Liechtenstein	1	0	94
  Lithuania	41	1	71
  Luxembourg	31	1	70
  Macao	6	0	61
  Madagascar	841	15	46
  Madeira	19	0	62
  Malawi	1882	51	52
  Malaysia	119	-2	47
  Mali	6	0	58
  Malta	11	0	77
  Marshall Islands	4	0	31
  Martinique	57	0	84
  Mauritius	27	0	77
  Mayotte	3	0	45
  Mexico	12706	-175	67
  Moldova	195	-6	91
  Mongolia	8	0	51
  Montenegro	7	0	53
  Montserrat	1	0	35
  Mozambique	1651	100	49
  Myanmar	96	5	53
  Namibia	47	1	55
  Nauru	1	0	15
  Nepal	43	0	65
  Netherlands	346	-7	84
  Nevis	1	0	76
  New Caledonia	34	-2	77
  New Zealand	170	0	85
  Nicaragua	466	-5	61
  Niger	9	0	36
  Nigeria	6071	-10	62
  Niue	1	0	19
  North Macedonia	23	-1	53
  Norway	162	-1	73
  Pakistan	16	0	70
  Palau	2	0	36
  Palestinian Territories	2	0	38
  Panama	310	-7	59
  Papua New Guinea	89	-2	53
  Paraguay	186	-11	59
  Peru	1551	0	84
  Philippines	3552	41	69
  Pohnpei	1	0	50
  Poland	1267	-5	91
  Portugal	653	-3	80
  Puerto Rico	227	-3	100
  Réunion	41	0	84
  Rodrigues	1	0	65
  Romania	528	-5	75
  Rota		-2
  Rwanda	593	31	53
  Saba		-3
  Saipan	3	0	71
  Samoa	12	0	44
  San Marino	2	0	98
  São Tomé and Príncipe	14	0	63
  Senegal	29	0	52
  Serbia	60	-1	62
  Seychelles	5	0	68
  Sierra Leone	42	1	56
  Slovakia	134	1	84
  Slovenia	27	-1	64
  Solomon Islands	50	1	34
  South Africa	1966	-33	50
  South Sudan	34	1	51
  Spain	1397	-19	87
  Sri Lanka	98	-2	71
  St. Barthélemy	1	0	37
  St. Eustatius	1	0	27
  St. Helena	3	0	38
  St. Kitts	3	0	80
  St. Lucia	11	0	70
  St. Maarten	4	0	76
  St. Martin	5	0	56
  St. Pierre and Miquelon	1	0	17
  St. Vincent & the Grenadines	8	0	35
  Sudan	13	0	41
  Suriname	55	-1	58
  Sweden	280	-1	80
  Switzerland	258	0	77
  Tahiti	45	0	70
  Taiwan	177	-2	64
  Tanzania	417	1	48
  Thailand	144	2	37
  Timor-Leste	5	0	76
  Tinian	1	0	10
  Togo	363	14	63
  Tonga	3	0	67
  Trinidad & Tobago	130	0	80
  Turkey	71	1	78
  Turks and Caicos	7	0	47
  Tuvalu	1	0	50
  Uganda	175	8	54
  Ukraine	1234	-195	85
  United States of America	11942	-98	102
  Uruguay	149	0	79
  Vanuatu	13	0	46
  Venezuela	1700	-14	78
  Virgin Islands, British	4	0	55
  Virgin Islands, U.S.	8	0	64
  Wallis & Futuna Islands	2	1	31
  Yap	1	0	31
  Zambia	3605	76	59
  Zimbabwe	961	-75	49
  33 Other Lands	2778	-32	75
  Grand Total (239 Lands)	118177	217	73
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
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  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  Jeffro

  The ‘growth’ in various European countries is mostly people who left Ukraine. Most of the European countries with growth did not have a corresponding increase in baptisms, and while there is some lag between ‘unbaptised publisher’ and ‘baptised’, it doesn’t account for it.