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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

jwposter:

Solomon's Temple was dedicated in 950 BC.

The historicity of Solomon is debatable, but biblical chronology would put the completion of the temple in 959 BCE.

Then you have the 390 years of the Kings as spoken of by Ezekiel 4.

The 390 years began in 929 BCE, and ended in 539 BCE. (Note that the Septuagint version has a different period, which neatly corresponds to the period from the exile of Israelites to Assyria in 732 BCE during Pekah’s reign to the final deportation in 582 BCE referenced in Jeremiah 52:30. This suggests the 390 years was a later edit from the original.) See also 390 days (from review of Pure Worship.)

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

‘scholar’:

No need for wonder. The said scholar lacks competence in matters of astro-astronomy and use of the various and numerous astronomical software even though he has some of these installed on the computer.
Hence, I defer to the scholarship of Rolf Furuli

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

jwposter:

Chronology alone settles the issue of whether there can be a a destruction of the temple in 586/585 BC

It was 587BCE.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

🤦‍♂️

I wonder if ‘scholar’ will provide valid planetary observations for 588 before jwposter does for 512. 🤣

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

Enough waffling.

Praesepe…

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

joey jojo:

In their article - When was Jerusalem destroyed? (2011), they mention planets but do not cite what the tablets say about them, choosing to focus on the moon eclipses, which are prone to error and mis-interpretation.

Ah, yes... that dishonest piece of drivel... it's little wonder they avoid discussion of the planets.

See also The Watch Tower Society’s 2011 attempt to defend 607 along with my summary of VAT 4956 in the correct chronology in my Divided Kingdom timeline and the problems with the JW interpretation of VAT 4956 in my JW chronology timeline.

Feel free to let me know if any errors. (Not you, jwposter, you're not qualified.)

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

Which planet is in front?

How about half an hour later?

How about half an hour after that?

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

Let's test your skill...

Is Venus in front of or behind Saturn?

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

jwposter:

Anyone in their astronomy program can see in the northern hemisphere by simply clicking the days forward will see the constellations move from east to west just as described above.

Yes, and that direction they're moving in... to the west... which is to the right... that's the front. Good grief.

Even if you are looking due west in your astronomy program, the constellations still move further to the right when you step the time forward (amazing 😒).

Swallow is part of Pisces but not Piscis_Austrinus which is the original designation in line 2.

Wow. 🤦‍♂️ You can't just defer to an older translation because it's closer to what you want. The original text says SIM which is the Swallow. It doesn't say MUL.KU.

Now... Praesepe...

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

jwposter (quoting Mathieu Ossendrijver):

The directions “behind” and “in front of” are defined in relation to the daily rotation of the sky which proceeds from east to west for an observer in the northern hemisphere, i.e. “behind” is “to the east of”, and “in front of” is “to the west of”.

Oh dear. Ossendrijver would be mortified by your hackneyed interpretation of his statement. You've completely ignored the rotation aspect and latched on to west as a cardinal direction, which isn't what Ossendrijver is saying at all. As viewed in the northern hemisphere, rotation to the west of astronomical bodies is rotation further to the right. It is quite obvious that Ossendrijver isn't saying the sky rotates towards the west as the cardinal direction on earth, otherwise it would just stop when it got there, and we'd all be dead due to the halted rotation of the earth.

Fish of the Zodiac

The "fish of the zodiac" is a 1915 translation to indicate that the intended constellation is Pisces. Piscis Austrinus isn't a sign of the zodiac.

"Pisces Austrinus originated with the Babylonian constellation simply known as the Fish (MUL.KU)"

MUL.KU is not referenced in VAT 4956. On the same page as the first quote above, Ossendrijver says of SIM in Line 2 of VAT 4956:

“Swallow”, sinünütu(SIM): a part of Pisces.

Now that that's taken care of... Praesepe...?