Posts by Jeffro

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

jwposter:

KalebOutWest was saying they liked your work and agrees with you.

And he also said discussing a particular JW doctrine is a waste of time, then threw a tantrum when I pointed out that your view has nothing to do with the JW doctrine. I do welcome expert views, but I’m not so desperate for support that I’ll put up with that crap.

I'll be waiting.

Good for you. You’ll be waiting a while. KalebOutWest is better qualified to deal with that side of things anyway, and it’s not relevant to my position. I on the other hand am not bothering to wait for you to properly deal with the many problems with your views that have been raised in this thread.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

KalebOutWest:

You are nothing to me.

Now you’re showing your true colours. It is you who is being emotional. I pointed out that you were in error, so you lash out. Why are you incapable of just admitting that you said something inconsistent? And no, I don’t mean mock humility with stuff like ‘ok, I know nothing, blah blah blah’.

I don't know your website.

I don’t expect my work to be well known, but I have linked to it several times in this thread. Sorry for assuming you were paying attention.

Just for context, your outburst was in response to these questions:

Can you explain how JWs changing their 1914 doctrine would affect jwposter’s unrelated Adventist lunar sabbath views? In the context of this thread where his view is unaffected by the JW doctrine but I have a website debunking the JW doctrine, can you not understand why it would seem you were also ridiculing my work (at least as to its usefulness independent of its quality)?

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

jwposter:

Obviously, this should be easy for you. Show me where you have evidence that the 24 courses of the Priests served for more than 2 times in a year. I'm referring to those Priests such as the Sadducees or the Pharisees.

Red herring. I have made no such assertion.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

Can you explain how JWs changing their 1914 doctrine would affect jwposter’s unrelated Adventist lunar sabbath views? In the context of this thread where his view is unaffected by the JW doctrine but I have a website debunking the JW doctrine, can you not understand why it would seem you were also ridiculing my work (at least as to its usefulness independent of its quality)?

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

Good grief. 🤦‍♂️

Me and KalebOutWest for the most part have the same information on Lunar Sabbaths in antiquity. I don't see where Jeffro has shown any distinction from what I have wrote compared to what Kaleb has stated.

‘In antiquity’ is vague pandering here. But anyone paying the slightest attention knows that jwposter’s claim that the Jews observed a lunar sabbath in the second temple period was directly refuted by KalebOutWest.

I'm sorry to say this KalebOutWest but you caught in the hate beam exhibited by the soul of Jeffro. Hopefully, she continues to make amends to you.

Just a reflection of dealing with people like you. I haven’t bothered mentioning until now either, but it hasn’t gone unnoticed that jwposter has several times childishly tried to goad me with asinine ‘misgendering’, which has no relevance to anything.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

KalebOutWest:

Why are you like this, thinking I was writing something negative about you? I didn't even have you in mind in those words as they were directed at jwposter.

In that case I apologise. But you said that JWs abandoning 1914 makes arguing about VAT 4956 a waste of time. jwposter (whose position is that Nebuchadnezzar’s 37th year was 512BCE) isn’t arguing for 1914 at all, so it didn’t seem you were only addressing jwposter, whose separate view is not at all affected by a change to JWs’ 1914 doctrine. It therefore seemed you were ridiculing any discussion about VAT 4956.

I thought you did a wonderful job.

But you couldn’t just say that in the same post as saying arguing about VAT 4956 is a waste of time?

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

jwposter:

Please excuse Jeffro for crying foul against LunarSabbaths. He/She doesn't accept this information from antiquity. But I do appreciate it.

Nice try, but your Adventist lunar sabbath nonsense is not the same thing at all as the lunar sabbaths practiced at a much earlier time, which I already noted from the Jewish Encyclopaedia when you were misquoting (actually just pasting from a nutter website) it several days ago in this thread.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

jwposter:

I never said anything about there being no coregencies or that there were coregencies

Notice the complete lack of detail. There seems to be a complete lack of awareness that any coregencies destroys his mantra that you can just ‘add up the numbers’. And Ezekiel4:4-5 still isn’t about the people of Judah anyway.

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GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!

the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.

summary: .

Jeffro

Ron.W.:

People being able to acknowledge/say a warm greeting to me would have made a massive difference to me back then...

This is precisely why this new change is just more emotional manipulation. If, and only if, someone shows interest in returning do they get the slightest bit of attention.

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VAT4956 - 530 BC destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar

by jwposter in

in my studies, i have concluded that year 530 bc was when the destruction of jerusalem occurred and the temple destroyed.

i had determined this prior to investigation of vat4956.

i had already found that the jubilees, sabbaticals, courses of the priests, and chronology attested to this.

Jeffro

jwposter:

I initiated my post to this forum for the purpose of showing that the 1914 idea is defeated by VAT4956. But my purpose for VAT4956 comparison is beyond the JWs. It speaks to additional evidence that the -511 (512 BCE) is the 37th year of Nebuchadnezzar and therefore is showing further the timeline that academia is using is wrong for the Neo Babylonian era.

Your Adventist lunar sabbath nonsense attempting to rewrite all of antiquity is completely wrong from start to finish.

KalebOutWest:

So all this arguing over Vat 4956 is useless.

KalebOutWest has spoken. No need to go any further. 🙄 Demonstrating to other readers specifically why a view (that seeks to significantly influence their lives) is incorrect is never useless. Concision in doing so is often also more useful than pasting walls of text. Time will tell regarding the veracity of the rumours about 1914 being dropped. It will be interesting to see how the likes of ‘scholar’ respond if that happens though. But dropping 1914 won’t have any effect on the nutty views of jwposter, who follows a different brand of nonsense entirely, for which a correct examination of VAT 4956 remains relevant in any case.