Posts by Jeffro

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Need help identifying a book
by oncebitten in
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2. friends
hello all.. i could use some help identifying the title of a wt book that i read back in the early 90's.

it was an older book when i read it.

i wish that i could recall more than i do.
Jeffro

Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Divine Purpose (1959)
https://www.amazon.com/Jehovahs-Witnesses-Divine-Purpose-religion/dp/B000GK2Z3E
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SECRET RECORDING 14TH APRIL:RALPH WALLS: MORE CHANGES ARE COMING!
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
secret recording 14th april:ralph walls: more changes are coming!.

( broadcasted to all british congregations today).

https://youtu.be/owg4bqj7pd0?si=yvfpkkos_qoy9u10.
Jeffro

Beth Sarim:
I have my original 1988 Revelation Climax book in pristine condition. The one that we went through,,,I forget how many times.. The original copy without the "insert",,,, the original copy before the Borg got "busted" as a UN NGO affiliate. You should have seen the looks I got one time during the the CO visit around 2007 or so. We were doing the Revelation Climax book,,,& I did NOT have the ""updated insert"". I only had the "original" You'll have to pry my original 1988 Revelation Climax book from my cold dead hands.

See also https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/156732/revelation-grand-climax-adjusted.
I have suspected for some time that they are working on an updated book about Revelation.
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Solar Eclipse - How Common is It?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
of the 213 moons in our solar system, only ours provides a total solar eclipse.. coincidence?.
Jeffro

See Breeze:
You are the one who said on page one of this topic that the rules of logic are a "human construct".
This is one of those concepts that creationists often (deliberately) confuse. Like the ‘laws’ of physics, and like mathematics, the ‘laws’ of logic are observations (which is the aspect that ‘requires a brain’) of how things are. The observed ‘laws’ themselves are not designed proscriptions nor human inventions.
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Solar Eclipse - How Common is It?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
of the 213 moons in our solar system, only ours provides a total solar eclipse.. coincidence?.
Jeffro

Sea Breeze:
Your assumption about the reliability of logic is what I am questioning. If atheists assume accidental explosions, unguided chance, and chaotic chemical reactions explain of the origins of logic, why do they view logic as trustworty?
It is a ligitimate question which flows directly from atheist assumptions... not mine. No strawman there.
So far you've guessed because they work. Which I pointed out as the logical fallacy of irrelevant thesis. You've also suggested logic is produced by our minds. But, that doesn't make any sense because we all have different brain chemistry, IQ's, experiences etc.
Aside from the false equivalence conflating atheism with specific cosmological models, this navel gazing sophistry is meant to sound deep but it’s just the usual ‘god of the gaps’ argument from ignorance.
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Solar Eclipse - How Common is It?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
of the 213 moons in our solar system, only ours provides a total solar eclipse.. coincidence?.
Jeffro

“Uranus rotates at a nearly 90-degree angle from the plane of its orbit. This unique tilt makes Uranus appear to spin sideways, orbiting the Sun like a rolling ball.”
Hence Uranus and Venus both have unique rotational aspects. But you go on continuing to miss the point.
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Solar Eclipse - How Common is It?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
of the 213 moons in our solar system, only ours provides a total solar eclipse.. coincidence?.
Jeffro

What a pathetic straw man. Atheism isn’t a position on cosmology at all.
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Solar Eclipse - How Common is It?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
of the 213 moons in our solar system, only ours provides a total solar eclipse.. coincidence?.
Jeffro

Sea Breeze:
Of the 213 moons in our solar system, only ours provides a total solar eclipse.
Given the size of the universe, your sample size is practically zero.
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Solar Eclipse - How Common is It?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
of the 213 moons in our solar system, only ours provides a total solar eclipse.. coincidence?.
Jeffro

Sea breeze:
If the universe were different, then the universe would not be the same.
That's deep.
It is actually exactly as deep as claims about the uniqueness of the universe, but with fewer words.
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Solar Eclipse - How Common is It?
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
of the 213 moons in our solar system, only ours provides a total solar eclipse.. coincidence?.
Jeffro

Sea Breeze:
Wrong. Uranus has one too.
Sigh. No. You’re wrong. Uranus has a unique axial tilt, not retrograde rotation like Venus.
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When JW.org drops 607BCE...
by Nathan Natas in
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2. beliefs
probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
Jeffro

Rattigan350:

"Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 BCE"

That is not what starts the Gentile times so why does that even matter?
Well of course it isn't (though I suspect your interpretation is equally wrong).
The 'gentile times' (Luke 21:24; Revelation 11:2) began in 66 and ended in 70. The 'gentile times' has nothing at all to do with the Neo-Babylonian period.
The JW (Adventist) interpretation of the 'gentile times' is a complete mess.