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  Atlantis- Devastating News

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/k2hwesvuddq?si=7g6pvmqvcfh-cke4.

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  Jeffro

  The scanning of this JW crap is what exposed him to enough radiation to cause cancer?

  No. Non-ionising radiation from standard computer equipment doesn’t cause cancer. It was very irresponsible to spread that incorrect claim.
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  Do you believe the writer of Malachi was inspired...and by extention any of the writers of the Hebrew scriptures?

  Of course not. There isn’t even any clear definition of what ‘inspired’ actually means beyond a vague superstitious notion of ideas being communicated magically without any verifiable means of transmission.

  There’s a reason that the operative word is ‘believe’ because ‘inspiration’ in the sense intended can’t actually be demonstrated to exist.

  But if you have evidence to the contrary, I’m all ears.
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  Definitely the gospel writers affirm the Baptist is bring referred to.

  Christian writers ‘affirmed’ a Christian reinterpretation of vague writings. This is not slightly remarkable.

  Do you think there might be a dual fulfilment here?

  No. Of course not. Co-opting an old text and framing it around unverifiable anecdotes is not a ‘fulfilment’ of anything.
  
  
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  Malachi 3:1 mentions two messengers: The first is John the Baptist, who prepared the way for the second Messenger, "the Messenger of the covenant," Jesus Christ.

  Malachi doesn’t mention John the Baptist or Jesus. Those are just Christian reinterpretations.

  The author of Malachi (literally ‘messenger’) was likely Ezra rather than someone actually named ‘Malachi’, and Ezra is probably also the ‘messenger’ intended at Malachi 3:1.
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  Atlantis- Devastating News

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/k2hwesvuddq?si=7g6pvmqvcfh-cke4.

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  Jeffro

  I was going to do another video talking about his position in Watchtower years ago, but not if I'm going to be called a liar

  Who called you a liar? You were only lying if you knew it wasn’t true. Otherwise it’s just irresponsible rather than dishonest. And it would have nothing to do with the other video you were thinking of making anyway. So that just sounds like a ploy to make people angry at me if they miss out on other content from you.
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  The verse from Malachi (whose name means angel or messenger, though no one says the book was written by an angel) doesn’t mention Christ or an anointed person, and obviously doesn’t mention Jesus.
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  Atlantis- Devastating News

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/k2hwesvuddq?si=7g6pvmqvcfh-cke4.

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  Jeffro

  Newly Enlightened:

  I never mentioned a blood vessel erupting in my video. I never mentioned anything about blood coming out his eyes & nose YOU are the one disrespecting Atlantis & us.
  Also Atlantis was the one that told me it was from scanning. I don't know because I'm not a doctor.

  The type of non-ionising radiation from standard computer equipment does not cause tumours. It is speculative and sensationalist to publicly attribute scanning Watch Tower Society literature as the cause of a brain tumour..That was the misinformation you reported. Because you’re not a doctor, you shouldn’t be publishing speculation (even if from the unwell person) about the cause of a serious condition.

  I didn’t say that you mentioned a blood vessel. I correctly and quite clearly added that the other misinformation in another thread was also wrong
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  Rattigan350:

  Gen 3:15 says the seed will crush the serpent which is the devil. The seed is Jesus.

  Entirely wrong. The story in Genesis doesn’t say anything at all about the snake being Satan, and doesn’t mention Jesus at all. Christian retcons of the story don’t actually reflect the original content or intent of the borrowed creation myth.
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  Rattigan350:

  It's that simple. Angels are messengers.

  Don’t pull at that thread too much. 😂 If you start recognising that the original Hebrew term for ‘angel’ just means ‘messenger’, you (well, not you, because you’re deep in a cult mindset, but others) might realise that ‘messengers’ can ‘also’ just be people. 🙄 Attempting to claim that Jesus is an ‘angel’ just because he’s purportedly a ‘messenger’ leads to the conclusion that the postman is an angel.
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  Do JWs believe Jesus is an angel?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would suggest:.

  the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.

  the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.

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  Jeffro

  slimboyfat:

  Yes Jeffro it matters to people who think it matters, to state the obvious. You’re entitled to your opinion, as are others.

  🤦‍♂️

  You’ve missed the point. JWs could say Jesus is a blurgit, where blurgits are a set of things that they define as including Jesus (even if a particular blurgit is unique in some way). It’s just circular reasoning that employs a term that you think should be defined differently. Your question about their belief that Jesus is an angel is a thinly veiled judgement of their opinion on the subject. So why get all high and mighty about my ‘opinion’?