Rank and file only believe what they're told and reply there's sinners and evil people in all religions. They rationalize everything/anything to avoid reality. The rhetorical line no independent thinking -- dangerous to think outside the dictates of Jehovah or GB is total control -- I couldn't believe and huge red flag for me. They take care of a lobotomy reducing any/all concentration of the brain.
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7DEBORAH HINES IS ON SIX SCREENS TONIGHT, SATURDAY, JUNE 24, 2023, 9:00 PM EDT
by RESPECTFUL OBSERVER indeborah will be interviewed on the "watchtower insider: barbara anderson tells all" program at 9 pm edt.
saturday, june 24, 2023deborah suffered extreme child sex abuse as a young girl in the watchtower.
this abuse took place at the world headquarters of jehovah's witnesses in brooklyn, ny.
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ina good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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Disillusioned -- I got it!! I can still wish otherwise but I have much 'hopium' -- lots of delusions. I'm a real skeptic -- and had doubts from Day 1 about WT but I was brainwashed reading the 'journals' as they were referred to. As stupid as they were -- I was hooked and had couple friends/ other women who couldn't wait to receive them. Just KRAZY!!
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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?
by Vanderhoven7 ini believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....
"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.
when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.
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Nico - Nice post and appreciate the positives for your Mum since many of us have beloved family in. If they'd protect the children, stop the shunning/blood issues it would be great/not happenin'! I don't care about their view on holidays -- so many secular folk can't stand them.
I have Morman friends who love their religion and have been in forever -- good people but the 2 JW friends I had (for short duration) are irreplaceable. I'm friends w/daughter of one and she couldn't run away fast enough from religion -- her Mom is aged now and shunned the oldest but not strong enough health wise to shun the youngest. I know Jewish couple who shun their son who married a non-jewish girl -- they've never met their beautiful grandies (grandchildren) -- just pathetic.
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ina good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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ExBeth - sorry, haven't had time to catch up here. I've always hoped there's a God and all (or most) could certainly use a bit of hope/help -- it's brutal thinking otherwise, however, trying to walk in reality and do the best I can for others and myself however limited the time, life's demands. Life is precious and I'm grateful for it, of course.
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ina good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.
were you more happy pimi?
are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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Negative -- miserable until epiphany of the con game and couldn't get out of Dodge fast enough but I was half way out the door/never gave up social life. I did receive calls (kind, good, men, for the most part only one bad apple and he got message real fast!) but I leveled plain and clear and living on private, live-security, property, helps -- they didn't have to waste time/call easier. They knew legally -- everyone has legal right to stand up to them (WT/clergy class just doing their job) and many have.
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PROOF Mormons have the truth
by neat blue dog indaniel prophesied that god would “set up a kingdom” that would “never be destroyed” and would “stand for ever” (daniel 2:44).
in making this prophecy, he spoke of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints... and it will continue to progress until it has “filled the whole earth”... hundreds of thousands of people are baptized every year.
the book of mormon is being translated in many languages.
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joe134cd - Yup. Successful family lives, businesses, friendships. People not begging for handouts like JWs. Some can't help if compromised health, age, etc., but they certainly don't encourage strong work ethics or education for the young.
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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?
by slimboyfat inhave you seen this video about the covid vaccines?
have you got any views on the information?
i find it worrying at least.
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ExBethelite - yes, Geert Vanden Bossche has been right but his timing or something re/the escape of Omicron info is quite horrific. He does indicate it won't kill all those vaccinated (golly, that's good to know and gives us 'hopium') but society thinks the C-19 pandemic is calming but he's quite a different prognostication -- "Society Caught by Surprise," statement.
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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?
by slimboyfat inhave you seen this video about the covid vaccines?
have you got any views on the information?
i find it worrying at least.
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Obesity is not why -- elderly and people were denied antibiotics when most advanced 'COVID' patients had serious bacterial pneumonia desperately needing them. False PCR positives (95% false positive when cycle count threshold was above 24), sedation using diamorphine, midazlolam, isolation - it kills and WT should be held responsible for their shunning on this alone -- it's been proven! Also, malnourishment, dehydration of elderly locked away (Covid protocol) administered deadly Remdesivir (kidney and liver toxic) intubation and then put on deadly ventilators which blow up the lungs.
Never have so many young people died.
We all need to hope, pray, chant, whatever, the handful of ethical virologists/vaccinologists in world are WRONG beginning with Geert Vanden Bossche.
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PROOF Mormons have the truth
by neat blue dog indaniel prophesied that god would “set up a kingdom” that would “never be destroyed” and would “stand for ever” (daniel 2:44).
in making this prophecy, he spoke of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints... and it will continue to progress until it has “filled the whole earth”... hundreds of thousands of people are baptized every year.
the book of mormon is being translated in many languages.
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Not too sure that's always been the case or if factual re/net worth now or ever. LDS have owned so many cos (huge corporations) for decades plus rake in all the controlled tithing. They were quite successful and impressive to the younger people -- there's big wards built within ft. of high schools for recruiting. Offer many craft, cooking, sewing, courses for the female members as well as dance events for teens, holiday celebrations, sports areas for all. Even in the dark ages receptions/events were nicely done on their properties. People don't run when someone says they're Morman. They're respected and many well off financially - very industrious people -- quite influential in their communities. -
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Regional Convention Attendance
by XBEHERE inelder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).
he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.
co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.
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Respectful Observer - thanks for the Six Screens video. I only viewed from the 52 min. on but well worth it. Next guest is Barbara Anderson -- I'll try to watch.