Welcome Calvin Tillis
May I say I enjoyed your comments, You should start your own tread with the above. Thanks
i can recall sometime ago in the 60`s 70`s or theirabouts,it when they first printed their own songbook must have been before the org.copyrighted their material,and the reason they did that is because some brothers were stealing the tunes ?
maybe modifying them and passing them off as their own for commercial gain?
( i know some of you are going to say wtf ?
Welcome Calvin Tillis
May I say I enjoyed your comments, You should start your own tread with the above. Thanks
a letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .
This was read out at out meeting tonight in New Zealand. We are also told to destroy any copies that we may have of this slip. All copies in our kh have been destroyed. No reason why was given, but more information will come out in the weeks to come. Maybe they not sure what scriptural twist to apply to this new light for us down here in this part of the world.
i've been a lurker for quite some time and enjoy the forum.
i've reached a point in life where i don't argue ideologies anymore so i don't have much to say.
i've been out for decades and believe i've been mostly de-cultabilized (if that's even a word).. my family is still in and i haven't had contact with them in years.
Good afternoon Mark from New Zealand
have you watched the 4 min animated white board drawing video on jw.org called "what's a real friend?".
it is one of the most hypocritical pieces they have produced!.
it goes into detail explaining that real friends "don't judge you, dont talk about you behind your back, don't hold grudges, don't expect you to conform, and encourage individuality!".
I won't be able to make it to this weeks meeting, I'm going to miss all the talking about it after the meeting...all the gossip.
this is the title of a watchtower book published 95 years ago in 1920 by j f rutherford.
it still gets an occasional mention at meetings about how it was a turning point in the history of the watchtower.
but how many witnessess today can answer this question.who are these millions of people alive in 1920 that would never die?
This is the title of a Watchtower book published 95 years ago in 1920 by J F Rutherford. It still gets an occasional mention at meetings
about how it was a turning point in the history of the Watchtower. But how many Witnesses’s today can answer this question.
Who are these millions of people alive in 1920 that would never die?
I had often tried to figure this out, is it the anointed? No, to many.
It can’t be those to live forever on earth because there were not millions Witness’s alive then. Could it be the angels?
Well finally I’ve got to have a look into this little gem of Watchtower history.
There are some classic quotes in this publication. But I’m going to go straight to the answer.
To start with, there is interesting point to note on pg 94: “The church systems would have the people believe that only those who become church members can be saved. The Bible never taught any such doctrine".
Thats interesting, because we are told today that only JWs can be saved.
Anyway, Now for the answer. Who are these Millions living who will never die?.
On pg 97:
“Based upon the argument here to set forth,
then, that the old order of things, the old world,
is ending and is therefore passing away, and
that the new order is coming in, and that 1925
shall mark the resurrection of the faithful
worthies of old and the beginning of reconstruction,
it is reasonable to conclude that millions
of people now on the earth will be still on the
earth in 1925. Then, based upon the promises
set forth in the divine "Word, we must reach the
positive and indisputable conclusion that millions
now living will never die.
WOW, so that was it, In 1920 those Millions of people (not only members of the then International Bible Students, but all kinds of
church members) would still be alive in 1925 to survive on into the new system to take place in 1925.
1. love the org.
your god with all your heart, mind, soul and strength....... 2. listen obey and be blessed..... 3. not wear tight pants...... 4. not not wear colorful socks..... .
others feel free to add to the list.. .
11. Do not hold hands during prayer.
12. Invite all your neighbours to the convention, but make sure they don’t listen to any recordings made from this convention.
what if the society know it only has to lose one big case to lose a whole set of cases on precedent of the first case?.
this means they will lose millions of dollars in lawsuits and settlements.
which means their financial stability is under threat.
Didnt Babylon the Great fall in or around 1918? when the WT leaders (at that time) were released from prison? I'm sure I've read that in a WT book sometime over the last 25 years.
are we no longer able to receives the answers to the written reviews?.
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Sometimes they get pre released on here, havn't seen any recently thou.
on oct. 22, eight brothers were released from prison in turkmenistan by presidential amnesty.
(see 2014 yearbook, p. 31) the ninth brother is still imprisoned, but it is hoped that he will be released shortly.
some were already in prison for three or more years and had been severely mistreated.
Welcome Andrew,
There are lots of ways to count time without having to talk too to many people when recording time, Not technically lying, just making the most of the time in the field. Walking very slowly, coffee shop, RV on the other side of town that you know most likily wont be home, etc.
i just realized that all these dates that the borg have said the end would come on or by and then it didn't happen, have stumbled me.
why such a fascination and trying to divine the answer from scripture when scripture plainly says only the father knows the day and the hour?
by their predictions, they actually sent many christians on the path of date-based worship insted of faith-based worship.. if they have stumbled me, then who is reponsible for that?.
Also this warning that Jesus said would happen in the last days:
8 And He said, “See to it that you are not misled; for many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not go after them.