this was first said in 1918 and adjusted to "will never die" in 1920. of course, the wts taught that the anointed had to die to go to heaven; but there was no great crowd teaching then, so they were talking about all non-anointed people on earth.
the wts members were known as bible students then and had been expecting the end in 1914 and it was adjusted.
one date that was stressed at that time was 1925. so i think they idea was that people living in 1918 would be alive to see the end in 1925, which of course did not happen.
And lets not forget, the very first lie to God's people, Adam & Eve. Satan said to them, you will not die, and they did die. Today its WT that continue promote this lie, but this time, its under gods name.
It was only a few years ago that the original "millions will never die" book was mentioned at a meeting as an early sign that Jehovah was using this org back then. Does not the very title say otherwise.
i remember around 2009, there was a scandal going on involving 2 families in my cong where the husband in one family was having an affair with the wife of the other family.
this resulted in pregnancy and subsequent disfellowshipping.
what was interesting to me though was a comment made by a co from the platform.
Same thing happened in my Cong more than 10 years ago now. Husband in one family was having an affair with the wife of the other family. Both marriages ended because of it, the husband and the other wife both go DFed That was also the end of their affair. The innocent other half's both left the WT for good. The husband that was DFed was reinstated only a few years later. Not 7 years.
what a horror.
instead of there being "more fish in the sea" our marriage mates came from the small and crapy witness pond.
anyone got burned by going with mr or mrs you will have to do?
This could be the main reason I have seen so many divorces of JWs married to JWs over the past 20+ years that I've been in the WT religion, and a very low percentage of JWs that are married to a non JWs who divorce over this time. Now here comes the WT brain washing part of this statement. Try mentioning the fact that I have witnessed many JWs get divorced over these 20+ years I've been in (trapped) and you will most likely get shot down in flames for speaking negatively about the beloved WT religion, or has an Elder once tried telling me, "in the world they have way more divorces than JWs".
There was a part in this weeks meetings where it was brought out that if worldly people would only start studying with JWs, they would find that there marriages would become a lot more happier.
i am still in and was assigned to collect the contribution after the meeting.
i checked the boxes with another brother and there was nothing inside.
no contributions were made that day.
Dont you just love the way WT go on about how wonderful they are because "no collections are ever taken at our meetings". But when our congregation don't meet the monthly amount that was pledged, we had read out to us from the platform a very rude letter from the branch explaining that we need to as a congregation keep up with our monthly pledge that we had made. Make sure that our yes means yes and so on... No sign of the branch being loving towards us as brothers and forgiving us for the shortfall of money, oh NO, Just, we want your money and we want it now!.
i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.
i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.
yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.
Some of the side points to counting time that I disagreed with were.
1: If they need to know hours, like they always go on about, why do we even need to put our name on that paper slip. Wouldn't simply a reminder announcement at the end of each month to fill in that time slip without names do? That way they don't break the judging other people bible command.
2: How many times have we been doing house over house with another couple (usually pioneers), who spend more time talking and hardly moving down the street, meanwhile here I am (was) knocking on about 4 doors to there 1. Then within the hour of starting they are off down the road to the local coffee shop.
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/coping-with-shunning/.
by barbara anderson.
when my husband and i left the religion of jehovah’s witnesses (jws), we, like countless others, lost family members and friends because of the witnesses shunning doctrine.
Is that really a photo of your son? Or do they use an actor for these photos?.
you found out about ttatt way back in the 70's or maybe the 80's (basically before the internet) and you thought that you were all alone in this knowledge?
what do you think would have happened to you?
no jehovahs-witness.com, no john cedars, no arc, no jwfacts.com and no crisis of conscience to fall back on.
I found out the TTATT by reading just WT publications. You need a very poor memory to remain a loyal WT believer. But that is what most witness's have. A quote from a talk in the last convention said "If you read WT only publications you will be protected from apostasy".
i just wanted to vent, nothing more.
my aunt died in edinburgh last week.
her obituary facilitates adding candles & personal messages.
We know what the witnesses are told about the evil media. The evil media that make up these negative stories. So reports published in the news that put WT in an unfavorable light will not be read and we know that this information will not be addressed at the KH meetings. So continue to advertise by this means.
i’m sitting there in the kingdom hall just thinking how rich it is of the gbojw to preach about materialism when they have recently been evidenced to be using bro’s & sis’ contributions to the world wide work to travel business class!
just that thought alone was leading me to read scripture while they were all engaged in the wt “study”.. however, then it came to paragraph 17 and i blurted / choked a little.
the paragraph said that “we should not imitate the people of ‘the nations,’ who have no real faith in a loving heavenly father who cares for those who put the interests of his kingdom first in their life.”.
Who remembers the time when materialism was considered OK, it was just how you allowed it to control your life that was frowned upon. How many on here know of Elders with everything in life, grand house, nice cars, latest technically, it will be these ones that stand up in front of the meetings and tell everyone to simplify your life, and the ones that listen will be the ones that can't afford to listen, but they do.
in paragraph 2 of this study, the gbojw evidences once again that they are sticking to the absurd 1914 doctrine – “when the last days of the present system began...”.
i noted that as 2014 approached, the gbojw became somewhat reticent about making reference to revelation 12:12 – the “short period of time” scripture.
so this study is the first one in a long time in which both the 1914 doctrine and revelation 12:12 are mentioned in the same study.
Nice report on that WT study. I had to sit through it. Like this WT and a lot of these other so called bible studies, they are more about not leaving WT, remain loyal to WT (jehovahs organization). They are cutting off any and all possible exits from this religion. And if you do leave, your former WT friends and family are trained to look down at you because you have let Satan take over you. Thank you WT for promoting your message of love!
