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New Resolution?

by NikL in

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friends

had our midweek meeting last night.

they had a resolution to send an extra (i wanna say $1100 but i only remember it was at least $1000) per month to forward the kingdom preaching work etc.. you know how they work in the kh...no one votes against anything.

i abstained as i almost have always done.

skin

What happens if that amount is not sent one month, are they then in the red?

Well this happened to our congregation recently. Elders brought a gazebo for shade while cart witnessing, new carts and some kh maintaince. Using the donated money, but it meant that month we sent under our monthly branch payment. What happened? We had read out to us from the stage a very rude letter from the branch telling that we need to make sure that we meet our monthly payments, making sure our yes means yes etc. Absolutely no sign of Christian forgiveness from them because we couldn't find enough money for that month. Disgusting.

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Suicides in the JWs

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

during my time in the jws there was a friend i had known since i was a small child.

he was an elder's son and around my age.

he would often instigate the game of "tag" after the meetings.

skin

One of my jw friends did themselves in, in the same way as yours. They didnt get a kh funeral but an elder took the service at a funeral house. Also it now sounds like that these ones will get a resurrection from his talk, something about them not thinking straight at the time they died.

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Baptism 1973 and 1985 Questions hmmmmmmmmmm!

by Beans in

i was doing some research and noticed that the baptism questions were changed several times over the years.

the questions in 1973 were as follows: *** w73 5/1 280 baptizing follows discipling *** if you feel the same about serving jehovah god and taking christs yoke upon you, we suggest that you consider the following two questions, which are asked of candidates for baptism:.

(1) have you repented of your sins and turned around, recognizing yourself before jehovah god as a condemned sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the father, through his son jesus christ?

skin

Where is the opening poster "Beans" these days? He was very active on here 10 to 15 years, but nothing in the last 10 years.

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Why are JWs so sensitive to criticism?

by Half banana in

i remember a roman catholic priest acknowledging on the bbc that the outrageously anti-clerical tv comedy father ted was a humorous mocking of his church but an acceptable thing.. try mocking the jw religion to a believer and the result is so very different.. just why is it that jehovah's witnesses can never take even the faintest hint of criticism of their religion?.

skin

Just another sign that somethings not right. Lets stomp out this negative criticism about the beloved WT.org. Then we don't have to deal with that level of Satan's attack. And by the way, this criticism is what cause's people to turn apostate. You don't want that, do you?

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If the GB changed a major teaching, would all witnesses just go along with it?

by stuckinarut2 in

so if the gb changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?.

witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.. so what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??.

thoughts?.

skin

Nothing will make the average JW wakeup. Simply because most JW's dont see any difference between Jehovah and the faithful slave, and in some things they show more fear in the words from the faithful slave (GB). For instance the faithful slave say don't grow a beard, the need to report your time each month, the end is near etc, and most witness's will follow these very things. Meanwhile Jehovah says not to gossip (Proverbs 20:19), get drunk (Ephesians 5:18), don't listen to anyone that says the end is near, (Luke 21: 7 - 8) and yet this is what a lot of Witness's do.

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The Great October 2016 Invite to the Sunday Meeting campaign ...

by freddo in

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friends

well how's it going round your way?

massive increase of interested ones?

did you even know it was supposed to be happening?

skin

And don't forget. The WT study 2 weeks ago informed us that they need more brothers stepping in to take the lead due to the increasing numbers coming to meetings.

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God's Rule Book ....The org is setting the scene....

by tor1500 in

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friends

i went to my midweek meeting this week.

very interesting....couple of things i noticed in the god's rule book, this week finishing up "the kingdom is born in heaven".

there was a footnote that read:for many years the watch tower was intended mainly for members of the little flock for their personal edification.

skin

In this weeks (24th Oct 2016) Congregational book study. Near the end of this weeks study is this:

"PREPARED FOR THE BIRTH OF THE KINGDOM

Consider some historical events from the decades leading up to 1914. Can you see how these developments helped God’s people to be prepared for the birth of the Messianic Kingdom?"

Notice anything wrong with this? or misleading? Most JW's would have no idea what Russell was really teaching before 1914, (and up until the 1930's). Just the modern days WT reversion of its History. For those that don't see what is misleading with this title. Both Rutherford & Russell preached and published both before and after 1914, was that the birth of this Messianic Kingdom happened in 1874, and Christ was given rulership of that Kingdom in 1878. So how could Gods people be preparing for this birth, when at the time, it had already happened!.

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The physical effects of Cognitive Dissonance

by stuckinarut2 in

most of us here have gone through, or are going through the various stages "cognitive dissonance".. this is a term used to describe a situation where our minds, and hearts just know that something is "not quite right", and therefore we find ourselves in a muddle trying to reconcile the things we know with the things we are hearing or being told.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cognitive_dissonance.

so just wondering, how many of you found yourselves (or still find yourselves) becoming phyiscally ill in some way during the time of fading?.

i know that when i look back, for several years even before i was awake to the many issues and facts about the society, i would feel ill at assemblies or conventions.

skin

Another stage of "cognitive dissonance" can be found in this weeks (24th Oct 2016) Congregational book study. Near the end of this weeks study is this:

"PREPARED FOR THE BIRTH OF THE KINGDOM

Consider some historical events from the decades leading up to 1914. Can you see how these developments helped God’s people to be prepared for the birth of the Messianic Kingdom?"

Notice anything wrong with this? or misleading? Most JW's would have no idea what Russell was really teaching before 1914, (and up until the 1930's). Just the modern days WT reversion of its History. For those that don't see what is misleading with this title. Both Rutherford & Russell preached and published both before and after 1914, was the the birth of this Messianic Kingdom happened in 1874, and Christ was given rulership of that Kingdom in 1878. So how could Gods people be preparing for this birth, when at the time, it had already happened!.

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Where Can One Get Answers To Questions From JWs?

by Cold Steel in

there's also a fellow who calls himself the "watchman," but he seems as critical as many of the so-called "apostates.

" is there a place where one can ask questions from knowledgeable believers or "a" believer?

i really don't want to take the bible lessons.

skin

Post your question here. There are plenty of knowledgeable people here that can answer your questions.

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Watchtower Study Article 23/10/16 from August edition

by BluesBrother in

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-august-2016/do-you-see-the-need-to-train-others/.

much of the article is the usual thoughtless mush that we have come to expect these days.

the rank and file bros. are urged to reach out to train the new ones... .

skin

Para 2: " Worldwide, the number of people accepting the good news is growing."

Has this changed? When i used to follow the figures found in the year books, these numbers were dropping.