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  What do you think will happen when all the FDS die

  by termite 35 in

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  i'm not planning anything..... but when they all pop off, what are the rest going to do?they think the ns will come before they all die, so how the heck will they cope with it ,scriptually speaking/ surely cause a few to 'desert'?

  there was a thread a few days ago about elders being up graded to fds status by some out of context crappily applied scripture;do you think they'll explain the absence of god's action with' the fds is still here!.

  or will they work everyone up into a horribly humiliating fever pitch of protelisizing ,the like of which we have yet to see?

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  Hello termite and others on this thread.

  My personal point of view: For the time being they will extend the "formula", that allows for those born after 1915-1920 (the heavenly call closed around 1935 acc. to the WT) to be of the anointed, as much as possible. (See current members on the GB - some of them born on the 40's...)

  But within 5-10 years (and I agree completely with JT and whoever his sources may be!) they will have to prepare for and make a (noteable) change that somehow allows the "other sheep" to be the FDS of the last days. We have seen the introduction to this several yeasr ago. In a way they are planning tyhe next steps already - checking out how some chosen "low- and high-profile" JW would react to such a change. For the past two years I have talked to at least a dozen elders, 3 CO and 1 DO that on different occasions have expressed their belief that THIS is going to happen (and they didn't mention the - and a couple of them have expressed that they would go by such a change.

  Makes one wonder, doesn't it?

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  Baptism..Confused WTS Doctrine April 1, 2002 WT

  by ISP in

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  2. friends

  check out the 1 april, 2002 wt, page 11.. christian baptism is not for everyone, jesus ordered his followers: 'go....and make disciples of people of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things i have commanded you.

  ' (matthew 28:19, 20)before being baptized, people must be 'taught to observe all things jesus commanded his disciples.

  ' hence, forced baptisms of those lacking faith based on accurate knowledge of god's word are valueless and contrary to the commission jesus gave his true followers.-hebrews 11:6.. so far as baptism is concerned, the matt 28 scripture as quoted by the article is a key text for dubs.

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  interesting subject...
  Maybe it's relevant to know that in at least, 3 congregations that I have personal knowledge of, young peoples (14-17 years old) wishes to get baptized have been rejected by the elders in the last 7 months. The reason: They have to prove, that they have read the bible completely and they have to reach at least the amount of hours in field-service, that the congregation reaches in average. If they fail to qualify in these regards, they are not qualified for baptism... Sad to say, that this one is from real life. No joke!
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  UN/WTS SCANDAL IN USA NEWSPAPER

  by hawkaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  after much hard work a certain person has finally got the story published through a letter to the editor in the san bernardino sun.

  you will find the article in the november 28, 2001 edition of the newspaper in the "opinion" section.

  note the voice of the people section.

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  Good news hawkaw!

  An article on the UN/WTS subject appeared in a danish newspaper (Kristeligt Dagblad = ca. "christian daily") on nov. 13th, page 6. The headline was "Jehovas Vidner har både støttet og advaret mod FN" (Jehovahs Witnesses have both supported and warned against UN).

  Unfortunately the article is not yet online on www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk.

  Other danish newspapers are working on the subject as well, but due to general elections last week and the preparations for the elections through 3 weeks the newspapers have not had the space for an article on the subject. But the subject is still ALIVE!

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  digital cams now

  by gotcha in

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  do u have a digital cam?

  are u contented with it?

  thanks....wanting to shift to digital now..

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  I bought the Minolta Dimage7 some weeks ago. My first digital camera - and it works very good for me. I have used Minolta SLR-cameras until now - and the possibilities with the Dimage7 are really great. I bought a 128 MB compact flash-card with the camera and a 1Gb microdrive as extra storage (standard 16 Mb is far from enough). But: The dimage7 is a battery-power EATER!!! It's best always to have 1 or 2 extra sets (needs 4 batteries) of re-chargeable batteries with the camera. E-mail me if you want more details.
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  Historical Watchtower documents

  by sf in

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  < http://my.homewithgod.com/wtdocs/.

  < http://www.homewithgod.com/mansions_my/wtdocs/.

  skally, happy trails!

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  cecil

  Great link! Thank you very much

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  The sound basis for 607 for the fall of Jerusalem

  by cecil in

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  2. beliefs

  in the main-forum thread "jerusalem destroyed in 607 bce?".

  * http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=14392&site=3.

  purehearts question.

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  In the main-forum thread "Jerusalem Destroyed in 607 BCE?"
  * http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=14392&site=3
  Purehearts question

  I read Justhumans response on one of the threads, and he mentioned that Jeruselum was not destroyed in 607 BCE. I would like to have more information on this.

  was answered by scholar:

  Pureheart
  There is a sound basis for 607 for the Fall of Jerusalem according to secular history and biblical exegesis. the dates of 586/587 have also their merits, but do not harmonize with an appropriate world view of the biblical narrative. Such dates do not have any prophetic significance in comparison to 607 which marks the beginning of the Gentile Times ending in 1914.
  scholar,BA MA [Studies in Religion] USyd.

  To scholar: I'd like to hear more about the "sound basis for 607 for the fall of Jerusalem" and why "the dates 586/587 ... do not harmonize with an appropriate world view of the biblical narrative". I have taken my question to the Beliefs, Doctrine & Practices-forum as well.

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  Jeruselum Destroyed in 607 BCE?

  by Pureheart in

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  i read justhumans response on one of the threads, and he mentioned that jeruselum was not destroyed in 607 bce.

  i would like to have more information on this.. pureheart

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  scholar:

  There is a sound basis for 607 for the Fall of Jerusalem according to secular history and biblical exegesis. the dates of 586/587 have also their merits, but do not harmonize with an appropriate world view of the biblical narrative. Such dates do not have any prophetic significance in comparison to 607 which marks the beginning of the Gentile Times ending in 1914.

  I'd like to hear more about the "sound basis for 607 for the fall of Jerusalem" and why "the dates 586/587 ... do not harmonize with an appropriate world view of the biblical narrative". I have taken my question to the Beliefs, Doctrine & Practices-forum as well.

  cecil

  edited to add the link to the thread in the Beliefs, Doctrines & Practices-forum:
  * http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=14420&site=3
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  New Furuli-book cancelled?

  by cecil in

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  * http://www.elihubooks.com.

  a furuli-book /-booklet in defense of the wts 607-chronology seems to have been canceled.

  for months the webiste has been announcing it as a forthcoming title from elihu books.

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  or maybe somebody has discovered, what others have known for decades - the 607-chronology is a hoax!

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  New Furuli-book cancelled?

  by cecil in

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  * http://www.elihubooks.com.

  a furuli-book /-booklet in defense of the wts 607-chronology seems to have been canceled.

  for months the webiste has been announcing it as a forthcoming title from elihu books.

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  received a notice from Elihu Books by e-mail today:

  "The forthcoming book by Rolf Furuli has been removed from our site due to uncertainties associated with its publication. If the book reaches the point where we believe it will indeed be published, then we will place a notice to this effect on our site."

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  New Furuli-book cancelled?

  by cecil in

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  2. friends

  * http://www.elihubooks.com.

  a furuli-book /-booklet in defense of the wts 607-chronology seems to have been canceled.

  for months the webiste has been announcing it as a forthcoming title from elihu books.

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  Have a look at
  * http://www.elihubooks.com

  A Furuli-book /-booklet in defense of the WTS 607-chronology seems to have been canceled. For months the webiste has been announcing it as a forthcoming title from Elihu Books. Now it's simply gone...

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