Posts by sonnyboy

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Even if you don't believe in God, do you believe that spirits exist?

by sonnyboy in

how do so many people have similar experiences in "haunted" places if spirits didn't exist?

how do ouija boards work?

i recently purchased one and...i now know why so many people fear them.

sonnyboy

Frog, I believe that the mind has more power than science can measure. Maybe these things DO happen through brain waves or some other physiological means.

How do Asian monks generate enough body heat to make steam come from their wet garments? How can some people create an electric current through their bodies powerful enough to knock someone on their ass and catch paper on fire?

If these events are real, then I see no reason why we can't do other extraordinary things through the power of suggestion.

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Even if you don't believe in God, do you believe that spirits exist?

by sonnyboy in

how do so many people have similar experiences in "haunted" places if spirits didn't exist?

how do ouija boards work?

i recently purchased one and...i now know why so many people fear them.

sonnyboy

If you are unconsciously exaggerating this mundane fact, how can you or anyone trust that you aren't exaggerating your other more extraordinary claims?

My 'extraordinary claims' were witnessed by more than one person. If there are some form of spirits amongst us, they seem to be concentrated on certain people (my brother, for instance, has always had strange things happening to him). He's been present during every inexplicable event I've witnessed.

I definitey understand the stance of the hard-core skeptic who's never experienced anything like this...such people have no reason to believe, and that's OK. The thing that I find odd is that many hard-core skeptics seem to get an attitude when presented with 'extranatural' (patent pending) events as if they want to believe but are upset that these things happened to someone other than them.

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Even if you don't believe in God, do you believe that spirits exist?

by sonnyboy in

how do so many people have similar experiences in "haunted" places if spirits didn't exist?

how do ouija boards work?

i recently purchased one and...i now know why so many people fear them.

sonnyboy

another thing you and your bro should try sonny, is haul the board out again, and try it blindfolded.

I've heard stories of people doing this (I think I've heard a couple on this board alone) with accurate results.

Either someone's lying or there's more to this than meets the eye.

I'm not sure if I'll be trying it again. I've seen to many inexplicable things to NOT believe to some extent.

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Even if you don't believe in God, do you believe that spirits exist?

by sonnyboy in

how do so many people have similar experiences in "haunted" places if spirits didn't exist?

how do ouija boards work?

i recently purchased one and...i now know why so many people fear them.

sonnyboy

I saw that episode. In fact, I have it recorded. How do you get the idea that it didn't go off in all of the rooms? Nothing in the show suggested that.

Sorry if I didn't make my post more clear. I didn't mean this was demonstrated in that particular program (although it sounded like I did, maybe I did, but I digress), but I've seen many programs in which this test was applied and the readings did not always resgister in rooms that had electrical outlets/wiring. They also didn't register in the same room every time, which seems to indicated that the "presence", if there is a presence, may not be stationary. I'm trying to keep an unbiased view of things.

My point was that Bullshit is an extremely biased program. When Penn has something set in his mind, he does everything in his power to discredit anyone with an opposing view, and he doesn't always look at both sides of the coin. I'm still pissed about the episode on the ESA in which they showed no concern whatsoever for the preservation of our environment in general.

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Even if you don't believe in God, do you believe that spirits exist?

by sonnyboy in

how do so many people have similar experiences in "haunted" places if spirits didn't exist?

how do ouija boards work?

i recently purchased one and...i now know why so many people fear them.

sonnyboy

The worst it can do is kill us. Then guess what, we get to be a ghost/spirit. Once we're there, why can't we find the spirit/demon that killed us and kick its ass in the spirit world?

LOL! I like your attitude.

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Even if you don't believe in God, do you believe that spirits exist?

by sonnyboy in

how do so many people have similar experiences in "haunted" places if spirits didn't exist?

how do ouija boards work?

i recently purchased one and...i now know why so many people fear them.

sonnyboy

It has ably been demonstrated those electromagnetic detectors are picking up the electric wires, outlets, light fixtures, etc that are in the walls and ceilings of ALL houses.

You must be a Penn & Teller fan.

I saw that episode of Bullshit, but they never explained why it didn't go off in all the rooms, all of which had electrical outlets.

Speaking of P&T, their show is extremely biased on ALL subjects covered. I just watch it to see how outrageous they can get.

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Even if you don't believe in God, do you believe that spirits exist?

by sonnyboy in

how do so many people have similar experiences in "haunted" places if spirits didn't exist?

how do ouija boards work?

i recently purchased one and...i now know why so many people fear them.

sonnyboy

Some say those electro magnetic devices go off in places that are supposed to be haunted. If they are detecting spirits (I'm not saying that's the case) then they could be measured.

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Even if you don't believe in God, do you believe that spirits exist?

by sonnyboy in

how do so many people have similar experiences in "haunted" places if spirits didn't exist?

how do ouija boards work?

i recently purchased one and...i now know why so many people fear them.

sonnyboy

My brother and I tried it out last night.

I asked if anyone was out there and nothing happened. We sat there motionless for about two minutes, waiting for a response. I then said, "Well f*ck you too" because I figured it was a bunch of BS, and the pointer started moving. It slowly spelled out, "Get the hell out of my house", and attempted to move to other letters. Right after that my brother ran to the bathroom and threw up, and I packed the board away.

I know I wasn't moving it, and as freaked out as my brother was I don't think he was moving it either. Maybe we were subconsciously, I don't know. The hair on my arms was standing up the entire time it was moving and I felt extremely hot....maybe I just had a bad case of the creeps, but I definitely didn't feel well. I was told that someone committed suicide in my house around 11 years ago which didn't make things any easier.

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Even if you don't believe in God, do you believe that spirits exist?

by sonnyboy in

how do so many people have similar experiences in "haunted" places if spirits didn't exist?

how do ouija boards work?

i recently purchased one and...i now know why so many people fear them.

sonnyboy

I often wonder. How do so many people have similar experiences in "haunted" places if spirits didn't exist? How do Ouija boards work? I recently purchased one and...I now know why so many people fear them.

I've had many experiences in my life that cannot be explained, such as record players coming on by themselves (the switch had to be manually flipped and the needle set), old toys in display cases that changed position and received inexplicable damage (it remains locked and only I have the key), ceiling fans that turn without being on (and no breeze in the house), etc.

I know it sounds ignorant to say, "I have no way of explaining these things, therefore it must be spirits", but that's all I've got.

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To all the other atheists/agnostics out there

by robhic in

after you got from behind the barrier that was keeping you from thinking logically and had removed the blinders that prevented you from processing information using common sense rather than the 2000+ year old superstitions of some nomadic goat-herders, did you start to find that religious-centric or god-related statements made you shake your head in incredulity?.

case in point: just yesterday as i watched the 5:00 news, a story came on about a young man who had moved from here to california.

while in california he died but the family was so poor they could not afford to have the body shipped back to new orleans.

sonnyboy

I find things that I once thought normal to be utterly ridiculous. I glance at those Sunday morning religious shows from time to time and can't believe what I'm hearing. Even if God WERE real, why would anyone want to love it?

I really get annoyed when I hear intelligent people talking about God without even questioning his existence.