i've never been df'ed and reinstated, but i'm curious about how this process went for you.
did it seem very arbitrary?
were there very perverse or explict questions asked?
I've never been DF'ed and reinstated, but I'm curious about how this process went for you. Did it seem very arbitrary? Were there very perverse or explict questions asked? Did it seem very one-sided (that is, you had to give information, but when you asked anything, it was very tight lipped)? Was there much scriptural basis for anything said or done given? Was it generally worse than the DF'ing itself? thanks.
ackack
i have not yet to find another organization in the world that is like jw.
yes it has made mistakes, there imperfect humans, but what other organization in the world goes preaching house to house like jesus did.
why is that jw are persecuted all over the world?
Sorry, i just got here :)
What makes you think Jesus ever engaged in any house-to-house (read: door-to-door) work?
ackack
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this was in the ms about two years ago:.
the camels are the typical representation of the magazines, that carry the good news around the world.. hb (of the "heave and barf"class)
How about, an obvious anachronism that points to a later date of writing for Genesis? :)
ackack
i was thinking today about my business.
i've been working in the field of educational therapy for the past 4 years, helping children and adults with learning challenges.
in the past year, i started working with infants as well, supporting their first year motor development.
Yes, i think we need to distinguish between helping people and feeling responsible for people.
ackack
i was wondering how the wtbts can maintain their non-profit status when they are charging interest on loans?
doesn't this contravene their non-profit charter?.
i have no idea how this stuff works, but i was hoping someone who knows more about this could answer.. ackack
I was wondering how the WTBTS can maintain their non-profit status when they are charging interest on loans? Doesn't this contravene their non-profit charter?
I have no idea how this stuff works, but I was hoping someone who knows more about this could answer.
ackack
hope everyone is having a good day.
wondering how many fellow ontarians there are here?
please drop in and say hello, thank you.
I too am in Toronto. Hey Toth, are you related to the family of Toth's in Ontario? I know J & A with children R and err.. can't remember the girl's name. Just curious. :)
ackack
Whats the point of this thread? Do all the xjw's in the toronto area need to get together for a group hug? I'm down with that :)
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still not a conscience matter... although for the countries that demand that everyone register and actually walk in the booth to cast a vote, a witness may, if his conscience allows, register and go into the booth and add a new box labelled "jesus christ", then checkmark that box and vote for him... hahaha cool eh?!!!.
bethel
I think it Santa Claus.
Those two on ticket would DEFINITELY beat the Republicans in 2008.
ackack
so i went to a halloween party as a jehovah's witness.
i looked so much like the real thing that people were afraid to smoke pot in front of me.
I just came from a haloween party, and I went as a JW too! (only thing i had a costume for)
People seemed to love the mags i brought (is the devil real to you?) but they kept asking, "Where is your nametag?" My gf (who is also exjw) kept explaining, "That's mormons!" Everytime people would smoke pot or do "wrong things" i urged them to repent. (My gf said it wasn't very accurate as i sounded more like a fundie christian than a jw. but i think the finer points would have been lost on them.
Then I did a shot of something called Absythne or something like that, and it had a lot of booze and it hurt going down and then the rest of the party, I didn't ask people to repent as much and walking got trickier.
Interesting sidenote, my gf went as a "naughty school girl" and it was the shortest skirt she ever wore in public. Yet, she didn't feel that uncomfortable. I had to keep counseling her. :)
ackack
titles you could see in a wt/awake magazine:
1. candy-can it detract us from true worship?
2. rape victims-you are now allowed to scream again!
Just a side note, I built an app to generate typical WT article titles...
It generates such nuttiness as:
Just a smattering there... its random and weird. anyone can have the source code if they want. I was working on a full page watchtower homepage version... but i got busy. :(
ackack
you know even though i think the wt doctrine is mostly all garbage now, i still do believe that the bible is inspired from our creator.
the flaw in my understanding of it in the past was because i was interpreting it through the filter of the wts.
recently i have started clean slate and read the bible without the wt filter (easier said than done, your mind has a way of reverting back to what was programmed in there).
Sorry, just another thought. But one example of this sort of thing for me is with the WT contention that Matthew was written first. Why? They use the catholic tradition (funny, how these men were so demon possessed but could snap out of it long enough to write something true down).
I look at the arguments for Matthewian priority and funny enough, they are flimsy. Markian priority is way more sensible. Does this change how I view the gospels? Does it change how I view Matthew? Sure it does!
It always bothered me that Matthew got the Jesus riding on two animal thing so very wrong. I always wondered, whats wrong with this guy! But understanding that Matthew wrote later and wasn't very smart and got stuff wrong, helped me to weight that gospel (say compared to Luke, which has much better writing). Just one thought.
There are so many assumptions we make. Tough to challenge them all. But I guess when you come outta the WTBTS, you can't help it. :)
ackack
