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ackack
as a witness, i knew several men who attempted to grow beards.
when they did, and attended meetings, it did not take long to be talked to by elders and told, "as spiritual men, they should not display an outward form of rebellion.
" why was this a form of rebellion?
as a witness, i knew several men who attempted to grow beards.
when they did, and attended meetings, it did not take long to be talked to by elders and told, "as spiritual men, they should not display an outward form of rebellion.
" why was this a form of rebellion?
as a witness, i knew several men who attempted to grow beards.
when they did, and attended meetings, it did not take long to be talked to by elders and told, "as spiritual men, they should not display an outward form of rebellion.
" why was this a form of rebellion?
as a witness, i knew several men who attempted to grow beards.
when they did, and attended meetings, it did not take long to be talked to by elders and told, "as spiritual men, they should not display an outward form of rebellion.
" why was this a form of rebellion?
using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.
add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.
the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.
Incedently, have you seen the WT's explanation of this? It goes something like, the punishment for King of Babylon occured in 537. After all, the title King of Babylon is irrelevent to nationality, simply that when the Jews left, that was the punishment.
Would be interesting to find the article in question.
ackack
using the wts's dates in the january 1.1965 page 29 : nabonidus= 17 years.
add 17 to 539=556, neriglissar==4 years, add 4 to 556=560, evil-marduk=2 years, add 2 to560=562, nebuchadnezzar=43 years, add 43 to 562 =605.
the bible at 2 kings 25: 8 and 9 says "in the 19th year of king nebuchadnezzar the servant of the king came to jerusallem and burned the house of jehovah.
Scholar, you lost me there. I thought the scope Jer 25:12 was not strictly limited to the city of Babylon.
Jeremiah 25:12 did not have a fulfillment with a Babylonian king in 539 as most commentators show that this verse was fulfilled after the seventy years was fulfilled and was meant as a desolation of Babylon. Your theory on this matter is not supported biblically or recognized by other commentators and scholars. The new king of Babylon namely Medo-Persia also in time suffered defeat and Babylon remains no more.
So are you saying Babylon was desolated in 537 instead? Or did the desolating of Babylon have an indefinite time frame?
ackack
read ezekiel 40:1 in the twenty-fifth year of our exile, at the beginning of the year, on the tenth of the month, in the fourteenth year after the fall of the cityon that very day the hand of the lord was upon me and he took me there.
--- one verse showing that babilonian captivity is not the same as jerusalem destruction.
ofcourse if we start to count the 70 years from babilonian invasion into whole region (jeremia is talking about whole region not only jersualem and even not only judea)
labashi-marduk: (9 months) succeeded by nabonidus
(insight volume 1 p.453 chronology; watchtower 1965 january 1 p.29)
evil-merodach: 560 bce562 bce (2 years)
Just doing a cursory search for the timeline of Jerusalem I get ...
http://www.historychannel.com/exhibits/jerusalem/jerutime.html
OMG! it says 538/537! Seeing as this date is a little uncertain, I think I'll throw out my far more certain date of 515. How do I arrive there you ask? Its based on what my dog ate last night and what not... sigh.
ackack
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is quotes web site off line temporarily or permanently shut down?
http://quotes.watchtower.ca/
I believe this is quotes's ISP
They appear to be based in NY, I guess if they couldn't get to quotes, they could always get to the ISP in a US court.
ackack
forget all the other smoke.
b-days, xmas, holidays.
forget doctrine issues.