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  [fluff] HOW old are you?

  by Nathan Natas in

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  check out this site:.

  http://www.frontiernet.net/~cdm/age1.html.

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  Celia

  10 years old at the time President Kennedy was assassinated

  ...and I do remember that day very well... My Mom cried as she heard the news, in France....
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  Visit From Elders

  by laurelin in

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  it's been awhile since i've been on here.

  due to death in the family, chicken pox in children and other nasty things.. i posted here awhile ago about things i had found the unsettled me.

  i was due to have a visit from two elders and a lot of you gave me lots of help and encouragement.. well, the two elders visited and i have to admit that it was nothing like i expected.. they sat down, and told me straight away that there was nothing i could say or ask that would hurt me.

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  Celia

  Sorry, I must have posted my answer at the same time as Zev, sorry for the repetition !

  "If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises." In saying "anyone," The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah's Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date.

  Hypocrites ! "Persons having to do with the publication of the information... ." The Governing Body or at least the Writing Committee overseer must have read the articles before they would be accepted for publication in the WT magazine.... The leadership is solely responsible for the builup of expectations....
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  Visit From Elders

  by laurelin in

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  it's been awhile since i've been on here.

  due to death in the family, chicken pox in children and other nasty things.. i posted here awhile ago about things i had found the unsettled me.

  i was due to have a visit from two elders and a lot of you gave me lots of help and encouragement.. well, the two elders visited and i have to admit that it was nothing like i expected.. they sat down, and told me straight away that there was nothing i could say or ask that would hurt me.

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  Celia

  Here is the "official" statement from Brooklyn concerning the "wrong expectations" about 1975 --- WT March 15, 1980 --- They waited 5 years to say anything about the failure of their "prophecy" . . .

  5 In modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth. With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting-in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man's existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.

  6 In its issue of July 15, 1976, The Watchtower, commenting on the inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated: "If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises." In saying "anyone," The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah's Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date.

  7 Nevertheless, there is no reason for us to be shaken in faith in God's promises. Rather, as a consequence, we are all moved to make a closer examination of the Scriptures regarding this matter of a day of judgment. In doing so, we find that the important thing is not the date. What is important is our keeping ever in mind that there is such a day-and it is getting closer and it will require an accounting on the part of all of us. Peter said that Christians should rightly be "awaiting and keeping close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah." (2 Pet. 3:12) It is not a certain date ahead; it is day-to-day living on the part of the Christian that is important. He must not live a single day without having in mind that he is under Jehovah's loving care and direction and must submit himself thereto, keeping also in mind that he must account for his acts.

  8 Jesus gave the reason why we should maintain such a viewpoint, saying: "For the Son of man is destined to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will recompense each one according to his behavior." (Matt. 16:27) The apostle Paul also pointed out: "We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God . . . So, then, each of us will render an account for himself to God." (Rom. 14:10-12) And, "we must all be made manifest before the judgment seat of the Christ, that each one may get his award for the things done through the body, according to the things he has practiced, whether it is good or vile." (2 Cor. 5:10) How long do we have before making such an accounting? Jesus said: "He that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved." (Matt. 24:13) When is "the end"? That end can come either at the end of this system of things or at the individual's own death before then. How long, then, does each one of us have? No one can calculate the day when he will die. Likewise, Jesus said to his apostles about the time for establishing God's kingdom: "It does not belong to you to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction." (Acts 1:7) It is impossible for us to figure out the world's end in advance.
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  Eine Kleine Nacht Music

  by Farkel in

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  i've finally started recording tracks on the rachmaninoff rhapsody on a theme by paganini.

  i''m posting this little snippet to give those of you who care about what it takes to tackle a project like this.

  my big project last year was the "danse macabre.

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  Celia

  I can't wait ! I love that piece.

  thanks Farkel.
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  Visit From Elders

  by laurelin in

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  it's been awhile since i've been on here.

  due to death in the family, chicken pox in children and other nasty things.. i posted here awhile ago about things i had found the unsettled me.

  i was due to have a visit from two elders and a lot of you gave me lots of help and encouragement.. well, the two elders visited and i have to admit that it was nothing like i expected.. they sat down, and told me straight away that there was nothing i could say or ask that would hurt me.

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  Celia

  I did some research on the CDROM and I found a few quotes where they actually admitted they held responsibilty for 1975 so it's not like they deny culparability. (yb80 pg31)

  Hi Laurelin, (love that name... I have a niece with that same name)

  The WTS never admitted that they made a mistake promoting the 1975 date. They accused their followers of reading too much into what was said in the magazines and during meetings.... I am sure someone can quote their exact wording. I may go look.

  Here is one, WT76-7/15

  11 It may be that some who have been serving God have planned their lives according to a mistaken view of just what was to happen on a certain date or in a certain year. They may have, for this reason, put off or neglected things that they otherwise would have cared for. But they have missed the point of the Bible's warnings concerning the end of this system of things, thinking that Bible chronology reveals the specific date.
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  Visit From Elders

  by laurelin in

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  2. experiences

  it's been awhile since i've been on here.

  due to death in the family, chicken pox in children and other nasty things.. i posted here awhile ago about things i had found the unsettled me.

  i was due to have a visit from two elders and a lot of you gave me lots of help and encouragement.. well, the two elders visited and i have to admit that it was nothing like i expected.. they sat down, and told me straight away that there was nothing i could say or ask that would hurt me.

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  Celia

  Sorry, posted twice
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  Confessional

  by Zoewrex in

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  here's a confessional for those who would like to admit to anything:

  1) i absolutely love buffy the vampire slayer - sure i'm almost 35, married with a 2 year old, with a degree in history.

  now with season 6 coming out on dvd i have 200+ hours!

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  Celia

  I can't get enough of Harry Potter....

  I have read the first four books 8 times each and the fifth book 5 times....

  And I know I will start the whole serie again as soon as I'm finished with book # 5.

  I just read the whole serie again in under 3 weeks.... and this is the truth.
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  Does anyone here collect classic cars?

  by kls in

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  if you do what kind do you have ?do you take them to shows?

  we have a 1968 dodge charger,1969 roadrunner and a 1970 dodge challenger.

  there is nothing like the old cars with the big motors and loud exhaust.

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  Celia

  My husband has a 62 Cadillac rotting out there in the driveway.... Dark blue. Anyone want it cheap, needs a lot of restoration!

  
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  An Apostofest called.."Guess who I Am"

  by gumby in

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  i don't really know what made me think of this......but i was wondering how good i would be at "guessing" who posters are at an apostofest......if it was a guessing game at such an event, and nobody knew anybodys names, and you weren't allowed to tell.

  let's say there were 15-25 posters we are all familiar with from the board who have been around long enough for many to know them fairly well.

  how good would you be at guessing who they are?

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  Celia

  His freckled face is recognizable anywhere, and he's continually humming some Claude Debussy Prelude........ also, he drools when he sees a piano
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  Who loves wine...and which kind?

  by codeblue in

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  ok...time for some fun...it's friday for god sakes...lol.

  i love merlot's and chardonnays...of course i love champagne!!!

  codeblue

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  Celia

  a glass of red wine with dinner is a must. Narkissos, yes, Morgon is great, I remember.... Haven't had it for year, unfortunately. Not the kind of wine I can easily find around here. Chateauneuf-du-Pape, Hmmmmm.... Bourgogne, so good.

  About 3 years ago I bought an Australian Shiraz and hated it. Didn't bother try it again, until last week. I bought a Banrock Station 2002 Shiraz. It is a very good wine. I will try other Shiraz now.