Posts by Celia

Well, Sam, doesn't matter what your Mom will say if you call her on Mother's day, she will love it !
Hey, she's your Mom, even if you don't say "Happy Mother's Day", you can call her and say that you were thinking about her and you love her and ask her how she's doing...
She will love it, she's a Mom for crying out loud !

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Mothers Day - is it celebrated?

by scammer68 in

can someone pls help.

is mothers day (& fathers day) celebrated by the jw's?

if it is not, can you provide a scriptural reason for the decision.

Celia

Hi Scammer,
No mother's day celebration.
I guess the argument of the JWs on that one is like the no birthdays rule : you are not allowed to put anyone on a pedestal, even for one day, because it's like worshipping that person and only God can be worshipped, or something like that...
Why did you ask ?

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Bill Bowen "Kidneys"

by HildaBingen in

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as a mystical christian, i am just as distressed about child molestation as is mr bowen.

however i wonder about this man's motives.

why did he choose to handle his row with the witness organization in this way?

Celia

Ashi, Riz and others :
Orange Sorbet is the best.
That's dessert. Main dish is grilled Lobster.
With a big green mixed salad with french vinaigrette.
And Nathan Natas is a big guy, with a great sense of humour, and always happy and smiling...

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Bill Bowen "Kidneys"

by HildaBingen in

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friends

as a mystical christian, i am just as distressed about child molestation as is mr bowen.

however i wonder about this man's motives.

why did he choose to handle his row with the witness organization in this way?

Celia

Hilda,
I just can't understand your reasoning and the reasoning of so many die hard JWs and other fundies.
Wait on Jehovah ? Wait for what, an elusive end of the world ?
Wait until our life has passed and we die... Yeah, then of course all our problems will have disappeared !
But during our short, precious life on earth, shouldn't we be doing all we can to help others, particularly when children are abused ?
So, what is your opinion on what's going on with the Catholic Church ?
Shouldn't the abusive priests be brought to justice for what they've done ? Should we wait on God, here also ?

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Bill Bowen "Kidneys"

by HildaBingen in

jw
friends

as a mystical christian, i am just as distressed about child molestation as is mr bowen.

however i wonder about this man's motives.

why did he choose to handle his row with the witness organization in this way?

Celia

Hilda, Dearest,

I know that the truth can sometimes hurt, dear. Bill says what you want to hear and you like him.

Bill has brought to light some pretty horrifying stories of abuse among the JW, "the happiest, most righteous, purest people on earth". Have you even bothered to go to his site and read all the testimonies from abused persons ? Probably not.

I speak an unpopular message or, to be more exact, I ask unpopular questions--and it pains some here. Oh well. God and Christ come first in my life, hon.

Well Hon, I can't for the life of me see or find any hidden agenda in Bill's actions. He was disgusted at how things were handled (protecting the abusers, chastizing the victims) and he did something to change it.

But to answer your question, I think the right way to handle matters is by waiting on God and following his holy book.

Bwaaaaahahah... So you're saying let the molesters have their fum with 4, 6, 11 year olds, God will get them eventually !
You're sick !

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Bill Bowen "Kidneys"

by HildaBingen in

jw
friends

as a mystical christian, i am just as distressed about child molestation as is mr bowen.

however i wonder about this man's motives.

why did he choose to handle his row with the witness organization in this way?

Celia

Hilda,

However there is a right way and a wrong way to expose abuse. One does not have to get pats on the back when he or she decides to uncover power/knowledge structures that undergird abuse. The righteous have no reason to fear anyone and they do all things to the glory of Yahweh.

So, what is the right way ?
What should be done to stop the abuse of JW kids by JW elders, MS and others ?
What should be done to make the leaders in Brooklyn understand that they have to change their policies that are harming so many innocent children ?
Going public with the hundred of stories he knows about was the only efficient way for Bill Bowen to make this horror known to the public and the authorities.
He couldn't do that anonymously now, could he.
Bill, I have only admiration for what you're doing !
Hilda, none so ever for you !