Posts by cellomould

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America bashing, love and pride.

by Norm in

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friends

it is indeed strange, yet understandable to observe the "kneejerk" reactions you get when you point out possible .

flaw's with the mighty us of a, "god's own country".

even from people who should have learned not to have that .

cellomould

Sorry Larc,

I wasn't really addressing your post directly at all, as you can see. I just had some comments to share.

But as you said, balance is important. You can't attempt to replace ALL business with government or vice-versa. So I am not advocating blindly increasing the size of the government.

Sure the government can be smaller, and still more personally involved with individuals. Why not?

Can you think of ways to accomplish this rather than simply trusting the government because it's 'less involved' or 'smaller'?

And as another example of corporate power, take creditors.

Your whole life can be fucked just because some stupid data jock hits the wrong key and mixes your name with someone else's credit history.

Do you have any idea how profitable it is to sell credit? They are raping people every day to get a bigger piece of the pie. And you damn Americans (me included ) trust these people more than your own government?

I know no one is arguing that. And I understand you are leery of anything big with huge self-interests, Larc. Well said.

fun discussion,

cellomould

"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

39

Are you a Bush bitch?

by cellomould in

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friends

i found this at indynews....it's time for america to stand up to george w. say 'i ain't yo bitch no mo, dubya!

' he is certainly trying to pimp us all out.

read and weep.

cellomould

thanks Ros for your poignant observation,

And lol lol lol Larc!

All these people chimed in 'Yo' ma daddy, Bush!' I didn't expect such support for a dumb drunk daddy.

Why no comments on any of those 10 points mentioned there? Someone commented about welfare. Was welfare one of the items? Not at all.

There are like 30 more wicked things listed at the link I provided. Any one care to say why they think these actions are good and not wicked?

I don't want to hear 'At least...' anything. Bullshit. You know you are hiding his misdeeds with justifications.

Maybe Clinton got his dick sucked, but W is sucking dick.

cellomould

"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

39

Are you a Bush bitch?

by cellomould in

jw
friends

i found this at indynews....it's time for america to stand up to george w. say 'i ain't yo bitch no mo, dubya!

' he is certainly trying to pimp us all out.

read and weep.

cellomould

I found this at indynews....it's time for America to stand up to George W. Say 'I ain't yo bitch no mo, dubya!' He is certainly trying to pimp us all out. Read and weep. (there's more at the site)

http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=137530&group=webcast

The world George Bush made (english)

[email protected]

while the war raged...
While the "war on terrorism" raged the environment and human alike are getting screwed...

Bush:

1. Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.

2. Cut federal spending on libraries by $39 million.

3. Cut $35 million in funding for doctors to get advanced pediatric training.

4. Cut by 50% funding for research into renewable energy sources.

5. Revoked rules that reduced the acceptable levels of arsenic in drinking
water.

6. Blocked rules that would require federal agencies to offer bilingual
assistance to non-English speaking persons. This, from a candidate who
would readily fire-up his Spanish-speaking skills in front of would- be
Hispanic voters.

7. Proposed to eliminate new marine protections for the Channel Islands and
the coral reefs of northwest Hawaii (San Francisco Chronicle, April 6,
2001).

8. Cut funding by 28% for research into cleaner, more efficient cars and
trucks.

9. Suspended rules that would have strengthened the government's ability to
deny contracts to companies that violated workplace safety, environmental
and other federal laws.

10. OK'd Interior Department appointee Gale Norton to send out letters to
state officials soliciting suggestions for opening up national monuments
for oil and gas drilling, coal mining, and logging.

What a pimp asshole, huh??? [/i]

cellomould

"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ[/I]

49

America bashing, love and pride.

by Norm in

jw
friends

it is indeed strange, yet understandable to observe the "kneejerk" reactions you get when you point out possible .

flaw's with the mighty us of a, "god's own country".

even from people who should have learned not to have that .

cellomould

Larc,

Isn't it curious though that GOP politicians (ie George W) prey on American's fears of 'big' government?

And it makes no logical sense. You have the to-be president trying to erode your confidence in the government!... why?

This is manipulation.

Big business is worse than 'big' government, imo. Just look at insurance agencies, for example. They try to defy statistics by denying as many as possible of the most needy, big takers people. Even if the odds are 1/100,000 of a person having a certain illness. And companies are on their side. But when it comes to downsizing, companies don't think to reduce executive salaries. Their strategy in this case is to eliminate as many of the small salaries as possible.

Do you catch the discrepancy there?

And what about TV commercials? Have you ever spent an evening in front of the TV and not heard the word 'trust'? You are given no logical reasons to trust, but key emotional words are used to get you to trust. (i.e. 'natural' 'safe' 'healthy')

Just the presence of these words is enough to sway people. This too is manipulation.

Yeah, we don't want Stalin in power, but we have as much or more to fear from a government that sells out to corporate interests.

By the way, have you seen the latest Newsweek? With the picture of protestors with a Cheney 'Got Oil' caricature? Hilarious!

cellomould

"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

27

An Anointeds Concubine?

by ElijahTheThird in

that one in a position of responsibility for others, could a "minister / clergy / anointed / elder" be rightious in gods eyes in having a couple concubines besides the one wife?.

norval

cellomould

Austrailia, huh? Are you sure you didn't mean Appalachia

? hehe hehehe hehehehe LDH!

cellomould

"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

49

America bashing, love and pride.

by Norm in

jw
friends

it is indeed strange, yet understandable to observe the "kneejerk" reactions you get when you point out possible .

flaw's with the mighty us of a, "god's own country".

even from people who should have learned not to have that .

cellomould

One thing about Americans is that they let themselves be manipulated... It was mentioned several times that we here in the US don't have time or money for travel.

But look at this another way: If US citizens showed this was important to them, their employers would have to change their mentalities.

How many times do you see managers taking month long vacations while the lackeys get only a week per year? Quite often.

The bottom line is: Americans can stop accepting their being sold out by corporate interests; they have the power to release their own nuts from the vice.

We all need money to survive. Big deal. Don't let your employers use your need of money take away your freedom, however. Change jobs.

When it becomes unprofitable to treat employees like slaves and lackeys, corporations will change. In fact, they are changing. They are realizing that happy employees are more efficient.

cellomould

"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

38

MAJOR ALERT - UN 2nd LETTER on WTS/NGO

by hawkaw in

on january 24, 2002 the interim head of the department of public information responded to my letter requesting disclosure of the watchtower file.

even though dpi still refuses to give me the file, they did present some more facts on criteria for association.

also dpi provides what their dpi committee alerted the wts too in the committee's 1992 letter of accreditation to the wts.. there was a delay in posting due to the fact that the dpi sent a wrong brochure to me that accompanied the letter.

cellomould

ouch!
that smarts!

cellomould

"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

68

Is this world ruled by Demons and are we?

by Mindchild in

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friends

to me, one of the most pathetic and lamest of all watchtower teachings is the fantasy that satan and the demons rule the world.

the witnesses are terrified of these demons getting into their minds through everything from wearing old clothes bought at the thrift store to smoking cigarettes (remember all drugs give demons easy access to your mind.).

they would have you believe that each country on earth is controlled by really big mean and tough demons (hey demons cant be nice you know) and they are actively controlling the minds of the political leaders in a global chess game because they have nothing better to do.. i was wondering then if anyone can show me a single itsy bitsy tiny amount of evidence to show any credible physical evidence or logical/metaphysical reasoning to back the jw ideological boogey men.

cellomould

Wick,

you are fuckin' hilarious!!!!!

cellomould

"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

67

Bible Error: The Visit to the Tomb

by JosephAlward in

the following two accounts of the morning visit by the women to anoint jesus body are contradictory.

according to mark, the women wondered how they would remove the stone covering the tomb, but they found that it had already been rolled away.

matthew, however, says that when the women went to the tomb, there was an earthquake, and an angel came down from heaven, went to the tomb, and rolled the stone back.

cellomould

darn good point, Joseph!

cellomould

"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ

68

Is this world ruled by Demons and are we?

by Mindchild in

jw
friends

to me, one of the most pathetic and lamest of all watchtower teachings is the fantasy that satan and the demons rule the world.

the witnesses are terrified of these demons getting into their minds through everything from wearing old clothes bought at the thrift store to smoking cigarettes (remember all drugs give demons easy access to your mind.).

they would have you believe that each country on earth is controlled by really big mean and tough demons (hey demons cant be nice you know) and they are actively controlling the minds of the political leaders in a global chess game because they have nothing better to do.. i was wondering then if anyone can show me a single itsy bitsy tiny amount of evidence to show any credible physical evidence or logical/metaphysical reasoning to back the jw ideological boogey men.

cellomould

You Know,

You don't have to reply to my last post, but please give it some thought. I really thought about this subject as part of my JW exit.

I'm signing off now.

Take care,

cellomould

"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ