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  The only score that matters

  by Celtic in

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  england 5 germany 1. hhahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha.

  yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

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  Celtic

  England 5 Germany 1

  hhahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

  yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
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  Retreat space & chillout SW - UK

  by Celtic in

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  as of late september, i am moving onto an old sailing vessel moored on penryn creek on the fal river, cornwall, uk.. if anyone requires that bit of space to chill out for a few days or just to get away from it all, you are ex witness as i am and wish to share in light conversation, drinks or smokes accompanied by good music, wood burning stove etc you are most welcome.. if anyone needs it, please feel free to ask.. take care all.. mark

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  As of late September, I am moving onto an old sailing vessel moored on Penryn Creek on the Fal River, Cornwall, UK.

  If anyone requires that bit of space to chill out for a few days or just to get away from it all, you are ex witness as I am and wish to share in light conversation, drinks or smokes accompanied by good music, wood burning stove etc you are most welcome.

  If anyone needs it, please feel free to ask.

  Take care all.

  Mark
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  IS THE WTS a PROVEN FRAUD?

  by Amazing in

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  jw defenders often claim that those of us who left the wts are shipwreaked in our faith and have succumbed to apostate thinking.

  of course we challenge this with our knowledge of watch tower teaching and history, but they still fail to get the clue.

  they are caught in the mend-controlling of the watch tower and accept without facts in evidence the label placed on us of apostates.. what are the facts that prove the watch tower is a fraud?

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  Hear Hear!!

  I posted something along similar lines a few days ago and couldn't agree more with your sentiments.

  On a more professional note, I am currently doing research via UK think tanks into the societies claims for charity status. I can see no works that the organisation is accomplishing within the community to have this privileged tax status which in my view amounts to fraud of the system.

  If anyone else would like to contribute their views, I would be most willing to listen and converse.

  Like you say Amazing.

  peace

  Celtic
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  Getting you towards being happier

  by Celtic in

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  amazing few days.. if i learn anything about life it is this simple fact, that the more you put into your lives the more you get out of it.. find out what it is that makes you happy as a person.

  what is it that can really help you to feel well again?

  what hobbies / interests do you have?

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  Amazing few days.

  If I learn anything about life it is this simple fact, that the more you put into your lives the more you get out of it.

  Find out what it is that makes you happy as a person. What is it that can really help you to feel well again? What hobbies / interests do you have? Could you turn one of your pastimes into your own personal healing mechanism? What did you want to do as a kid, besides pioneering? What courses could you go on? What new things would you ideally like to learn about? Do you have a local college near by? Find out about personal development courses.

  So much help and assistance is out there if you are willing to put the effort into your own life to make positive contributions towards the future, after a while of putting into practice your continuing model for change, you will start to recognise the changes that are taking place in your outlook.

  To Simon. How about a section of the board dedicated to ex jw's accomplishments in life? This could be inspirational for newly left members to see that there is a life to be had from outside the organisation.

  To everyone else, try art, try being creative, try ceramics, fine art, sculpture, recycle materials, try something different, try breaking out of the molds you are in, take yourself out of your emotional comfort zones, acknowledge yourselves, appreciate yourselves, take time out to focus on who the real YOU is, really is. Be prepared for challenges, source, adopt new thinking, make yourself the person who you really believe yourself to be. Create your future. Re-create you. Be honest with yourselves. Give yourself time, don't be overly harsh on your inner child like state, nurture yourself back to full health again, use your intuition, speak to friends that you can trust, inspire yourselves to new things.

  My thoughts are with all of you.

  To more flying, sunshine, drumming, music, creative art, messing around on old boats, taking in beautiful scenery and giving life some stick. Go for it!!

  peace

  Celtic
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  The Idiotic Arrogance of Small Minds!

  by Kent in

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  the arrogance is tolerable.

  there is never a good time to call someone a name.sorry, ginny, just calling it like i .

  see it, and enough people agreed with me to let me know that i wasn't.

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  But how on earth do many of these know, myself included whether one is a wise or foolish wo/man?

  In some contexts I wish there was maybe less heated debate and more of exploring more simple means of communication and understanding, sorting through the ontological insecurities and further progressions being accomplished.

  Same time, these people psychologically are here, there and everywhere and need respect and much empathy for their present situations.

  If there is anything I would like to thank the one or two boards I belong to, their owners, moderators and client users is the realization that I needn't make everything so un-nessarsarily difficult for myself to understand a more simple truth in life.

  Looking at what, where weve all collectively and individually I think many deserve a 'medal' for their continued enabling assistance. My hat goes off to them.

  peace

  Celtic
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  Could it be so simple? Truth via so much fear?

  by Celtic in

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  as i look upon the life journey to date i cannot help but wonder why things have to be as complicated as they are.. life throughout the jw experience was complicated, at least for me it was.. here i am thinking about love.

  i find it almost derisory that an organisation teaching truth does so through the gradual instillment of untold fears, threats of punishment if one does not comply and here were not just talking about punishment in that sense of the word but spiritual punishment, persecution, which, connotations used to be, a living day/nightmare.. so enough of doom and gloom, fear, punishment, threats etc.

  maybe its not just me who has come to the conclusion that love really couldn't work with something like that and at least now, i feel far happier for focussing my directions elsewhere from the wt wonky timepeice movement.. i actually feel better than i once was, i can feel the sensation and experience the difference in my outlook on life, its perspectives and an even narrower way forwards.

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  As I look upon the life journey to date I cannot help but wonder why things have to be as complicated as they are.

  Life throughout the JW experience was complicated, at least for me it was.

  Here I am thinking about love. I find it almost derisory that an organisation teaching truth does so through the gradual instillment of untold fears, threats of punishment if one does not comply and here were not just talking about punishment in that sense of the word but spiritual punishment, persecution, which, connotations used to be, a living day/nightmare.

  So enough of doom and gloom, fear, punishment, threats etc. Maybe its not just me who has come to the conclusion that love really couldn't work with something like that and at least now, I feel far happier for focussing my directions elsewhere from the WT wonky timepeice movement.

  I actually feel better than I once was, I can feel the sensation and experience the difference in my outlook on life, its perspectives and an even narrower way forwards. But I can appreciate as part of my living experience far more of an equilibrium in my resonance now than ever before. I think it might be called, feeling happy.

  What a barking mad, bizarre, wonderfully nutty planet to be living on trying to figure out the simple truths in life.

  Something I found really helpful when I first left was Tai-Chi, find a good teacher, ask for reccommendations from friens or acquaintances, we were good at this once hahaha, despite my strong initial opposition, "oh nooo, its the end of the road for me, streuth demons are next on the agenda" aghhh. Complete piffle. Very relaxing, excellent for tired tensed up muscles, as gentle or theurapuetic as you want it to be, made the head feel great with more energy afterwards to recycle to better use.

  Dancing is good too, but thats another story.

  To more sunshininess, drumming, meditation, our friendly big brother upstairs, cider and hemp, woods and trees, hug trees, its good for you.

  peace

  Celtic
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  Newcomer - Old hand retiring from JW's

  by Celtic in

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  hello to onen hag oll (one and all).. my name is mark from the westcountry of the british isles, kernow (cornwall) to be precise, very, very rugged and magical celtic country full of myth, legends and ancient magic.. i was brought up within the borgy bogie balderdash, 3rd generation, father, wt overseer and local and regional assembly, convention organiser.

  my parents are still both in as well as my older sister and her family.

  i was disfellowshipped in april 1995 for anger and swearing.. the journey since has been a tour of magic and mystery, in search of healing and self-belief and empowerment enabling.. i work in community regeneration issues, especially social exclusion and am a full member of independent uk government 'think tank' the community action network (can) www.can-online.org.uk.

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  BJ first - no. BTW I'm 6'6" tall so guess he must have been a giant whoever D is.

  Ladonna ANA, you kept me going months back, thankyou for giving me the opportunity to meet with you and get back into writing again so much, your encouragement certainly alleviated my writers block.

  Keep your chins up

  peace

  Celtic
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  Simple meditation

  by Introspection in

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  i'm sure everybody has heard of the potential benefits of meditation, but no doubt fewer has actually tried it, and fewer still practice it.

  as jws we're taught that if you meditate you empty the mind and invite demons in, but this is simply not true.

  for one thing, even the watchtower talks about meditating on bible principles.

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  Thankyou for sharing. Meditation helped me enormously shortly after I first left. Despite my internal opposition at first I quikly found different breathing exercises and movement through Tai-Chi very relaxing.

  If you can find a good teacher that you feel comfortable with, I would reccomend meditation for most people here.

  peace

  Celtic
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  Organising Healing Networks

  by Celtic in

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  could individuals please assist in putting together a data-base and more effective recovery platform springboards to assist persons needing recovery?.

  peace.

  celtic

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  Celtic

  Could individuals please assist in putting together a data-base and more effective recovery platform springboards to assist persons needing recovery?

  peace

  Celtic
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  A positive story, at least that is what I think

  by Eppie in

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  hey all,.

  i just came across this site today and i decided to join the gang :).

  don't worry about the topic, i am not a jw that is trying to convert you back into the religion.

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  Explore and fly with your creative buzz, if this is what makes you feel happy inside, gives you that space to discover yourself, carry right on.

  I was brought up in the 'truth' for 28 years, left 6 years ago, on leaving I slowly discovered that a lot of the doubts and feelings of anxiety was shared in common with many others who likewise had been asking the same internal questions and the more I asked the more windows of opportunity were opened for me. Its now an onging healing experience.

  True, not everything the WT society teaches its members is as bad as some make out, but in their strive for a perfectionist model in an imperfect world, they ain't half screwing up big time many individuals lives on lots of other issues.

  I think they really need to get a lot more honest in their observable perceptive view and pro-active vision though to really achieve anywhere near the aims they are purporting to support.

  And they need to start Doing a lot more in the community, putting love into real action.

  Keep with your creativity

  peace

  Celtic