I've jumped out of a plane, in days after that joined local martial arts club. In short while after that I stopped going to meetings all together, but yeah, I'd say these were the two things that were definite not-for-witness things I did while still in.
Posts by zagor
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55What Little Rebellious Things Did You Do When Still A JW?
by Seeker4 inwhere there little things that you did just to express yourself and feel like you weren't just some robot clog in a machine?
i was thinking of stuff i did over the years: .
read whatever books i wanted, even apostate ones over the years.
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RIP Dansk (aka Ian), 18.12.1953- 20.12.2008
by faundy inhave posted this on the other thread but just making this one as well:
i need to let you know that dad passed away this morning at 8am.
he fought so hard but in the end they could not get his blood pressure to rise and he died of heart failure.
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zagor
His life should be celebrated, he was a strong man that fought hard for the real truth and stood by it with all his might. May you rest in peace mate.
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Dansk
by faundy injust to let everyone on here who knows my dad, that he is seriously ill, and unfortunately on life support.
he has renal and respiratory failure as a result of the quickest onset of pneumonia i have ever seen... it came on in the early hours of this morning.
he is waiting for an intensive care bed but the nearest one is 200 miles away.
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zagor
Send him my regards, he is a strong fella I hope he can pull out of this one, my thoughts are with you
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zagor
Considering that none of them brushed their teeth back then I'd say millions of differnt bacterias could have survived in mouth of one person alone. Imagine getting a kiss from one of them, talk about a kiss of death ;)
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Is it possible to truly love your hubby, wife, partner, lover etc and still
by mtsgrad inhave an affair?
just curious.
mtsgrad.
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zagor
no.
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justhumans post of turmoil in Greece
by purplesofa ini felt that this post needed its own thread, .
hope your country settles down soon.. purps.
from the riots in greece thread.
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zagor
Far out, I didn't even know that happened. I should start watching news more often than once in a blue moon.
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WTS - Inspired from the spirit world??
by tresdecu inhere's a thought i just had.... there are numerous places in the mags / bks etc where they say they are not inspired, don't claim to be infallible blah blah blah.... but then there's a line in the rev bk or a wt (can't remember which) where they say something to the effect that dead gb members may be 'communicating spiritual truths' to those still on earth.... does anyone remember that line or know what its from?.
that would be a great way to stumble up their pr guy...jr brown.
wonder how they would explain that!.
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zagor
Ditto, and that would be these
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Of All The Late Night Talk Show Hosts Which Is Your Favorite?
by minimus ineither past or present??.
i loved johnny carson.
his facial expressions were the best.. jay leno is getting a new 10 p.m. time slot before the unfunny conan o'brien.
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zagor
Used to love watching Jon Stewart, or closer to home Rove
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Russell Not a Mason!
by johnnyc inthis is some research i did showing that russell, was not, in fact a freemason (aka mason).
it is from the website: .
http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/anti-masonry03.html .
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zagor
freemasonry also claims to be older than the catholic church too
So that makes it true??? Like any other order religious or ideological order they have their myths and legends that became part of accepted internal folklore which gives members feeling of identity, belonging and tradition. That certainly doesn’t mean rest of reasonable people need to take it on face value without evidence. And what does evidence show? Evidence shows that Freemasonry originated in either England or Scotland sometimes in 16th or 17th century. That is how far their historical records really go, rest of trail is deliberately muddied by subsequent generations eager to give Freemasonry appearance of an old craft. But when you remove surface gloss there is absolutely not a speck of evidence to support it. What emerges is that Freemasons themselves have borrowed identities from number of sources including medieval guilds of stonemasons that were free to travel across the Europe and were valued for their craft of building intricate cathedrals. Likewise in subsequent generations they added more and more layers of additional identities including those of Knight Templars that were wiped out in 13th century. However, despite efforts of people such as David Icke or novelist Dan Brown there is absolutely no evidence to support wild claims of long lineage. Not a single independent record of their existence. Considering how much they were hated by Catholic Church in particular, one would expect to have extensive record of that held by the church. Where did the church’s enmity toward Freemasonry start? Curiously, everything seems to be centered or starting around 17th century.
TIMELINE OF RELATIONS BETWEEN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE FREEMASONS
Now why would that be the case if Freemasonry existed throughout better part of human recorded history? Where was Freemasonry during Inquisition in 12th century when thousands of Gnostic Carthars were rounded up and killed? Church was seeking to find anyone, absolutely anyone with “heretic” ideas and views to wipe them out of existence, and we know of those times because we have extensive records of it and even Catholic Church is not shy about admitting that. If Freemasonry existed and were such a dominant force to reckon with, why are the records silent?
Simple truth is, Freemasonry for all its claims or tradition is only a very modern concoction.at the making of the Tower of Babel there was Masonry first much esteemed of, and Nimrod was a Mason himself and loved well Masons
Yup, he was a mason alright, not a freemason i.e. a member of Freemasonry fraternity in any shape of form (assuming character recorded in Bible existed at all)
Like witnesses freemasons are playing on word and obscure meanings to give them sense of identify. Witnesses refer to obscure paragraphs in bible that refer to anyone called “witness” as the evidence of their long lineage. Freemasons seek historical or mythical records to find any reference to anyone who did any building work such as building of pyramids to refer to him as one in the long line of free thinking “free masons”. Of course, just because someone was a mason, i.e. building something with bricks and stones it doesn’t mean he/she was a member of an old arcane fraternity that existed from beginning of human history. If that were the case, if Freemasonry was indeed so organized they would dominate historical records by all those who hated them. Unfortunately, there is not a shred of evidence to support anything even remotely like that.
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Went to Billy Joel Concert on Saturday = He was awesome and funny!
by Witness 007 inmade it to the concert....billy sang alot of his classic songs.
"we didn't start the fire"..."pianoman"..."river of dreams"...he cracked afew jokes saying: "hi i'm billy's father, billy could'nt make it tonight but i know all his songs.
" very enjoyable, i had afew beers and after the concert tripped on stairs and scrathed my knee......mental note; 4 beers is enough.
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zagor
Awesome! Piano man is one of my favorites songs
