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  Top Scientist descent from Creationism

  by Coded Logic in

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  http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309064066&page=25.

  http://www.nas.edu/evolution/intelligentdesign.html.

  http://www.aaas.org/news/aaas-board-resolution-intelligent-design-theory.

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  Caedes

  Viviane, apologies, your post wasn't up when I started writing my post!

  Still, great minds think alike and fools seldom differ!
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  I Was Asked To Perform A Marriage Ceremony But Don't Know I'm Qualified

  by minimus in

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  my girlfriend's daughter and her fiancee asked me to marry them last night.

  they live in connecticut and will be married in new york.

  i felt honored that i was asked but i don't think i can do it because i am not a clergyman or minister and my u derstanding is that only clergy or judges and lawyers and justice of the peace can perform a wedding ceremony and marry a couple.. does anyone have any information on this subject?

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  Caedes

  My advice is to limit yourself to the traditional questions. We all know what happens otherwise.
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  Top Scientist descent from Creationism

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309064066&page=25.

  http://www.nas.edu/evolution/intelligentdesign.html.

  http://www.aaas.org/news/aaas-board-resolution-intelligent-design-theory.

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  Caedes

  The pedant in me has to say the word is dissent not descent. Amongst scientists of course the most commonly held view is that creationism doesn't even count as a hypothesis. You should perhaps add that they dissent with the popular idea of creationism to make it clear they disagree with popular opinion rather than amongst themselves.
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  Caedes

  You are obviously offended by my posts. I apologise I didn't realise I would cause offense.

  No apologies neccesary, I was not offended. I have a sturdy pair of big boy pants and am not afraid to use them. I am merely pointing out what I think are flaws in your logic and pointing out that claiming you were being intellectually bullied when you had already insulted a portion of your readers was hypocritical.

  It's clear that you have misunderstood me and hopefully we can reach some kind of agreement. Concrete thinkers do not have the ability to have flexibility of thought. If you are a flexible thinker then you are not a concrete thinker. Having flexibility of thought doesn't mean you have the ability to think in abstract terms. Being flexible is different from being an abstract thinker.

  Personally I think that human beings are a lot fuzzier than that, people are capable of compartmentalizing their lives and their thinking to an astonishing degree. I don't think it does anyone any favours to try and lump people into neat little boxes, it's the same as trying to herd cats. I think we all have the ability to think creatively, abstractly, regimented and scientifically if we choose to.

  You used the phrase " pointing out that your 'concrete' thinker" I am sorry if you thought my post was aimed at you as being a concrete black and white thinker. From all of the posts that I have read from you I see no evidence that you are.

  No, I was making the point that I am of a similar scientific viewpoint as Cofty, I want to see empirical evidence. I completely dismiss any and all belief in the supernatural. Your point was aimed at those you believe are 'concrete' thinkers, not at me personally, however by any fair appraisal I am in the same camp as Cofty. The fact that you weren't specifically talking about me doesn't mean that your post wouldn't apply to me and a large group of people on this site.

  Apologies again for offending you

  My apologies for giving you the impression I was offended!
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  Caedes

  Pistoff,

  My mistake!
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  The Great IMPOSTERS....

  by new hope and happiness in

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  this is a dangerouse thread.

  i dont want to damage the reputation of great people, unless there is evidence to refute " who they claim to be".. so how about a list of " great" people that may be imposters.. one:-elie wiesel: the most famouse holocaust survivor.

  nobel peace prize winner amoung his thosands of humanitarian awards.

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  Caedes

  I had my doubts anyway but seeing as the website describes the holocaust as 'the holocaust' it makes me doubt anything else on the site.
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  The Great IMPOSTERS....

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  this is a dangerouse thread.

  i dont want to damage the reputation of great people, unless there is evidence to refute " who they claim to be".. so how about a list of " great" people that may be imposters.. one:-elie wiesel: the most famouse holocaust survivor.

  nobel peace prize winner amoung his thosands of humanitarian awards.

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  Caedes

  Your link doesn't work btw.
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  Caedes

  but the study of evolution has been done to death, the topic belongs to pointy headed intellectuals.

  So, you think the word intellectual is an insult! hilarious.
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  The Great IMPOSTERS....

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is a dangerouse thread.

  i dont want to damage the reputation of great people, unless there is evidence to refute " who they claim to be".. so how about a list of " great" people that may be imposters.. one:-elie wiesel: the most famouse holocaust survivor.

  nobel peace prize winner amoung his thosands of humanitarian awards.

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  Caedes

  Thanks to this thread I have been reading about Elie Wiesel, a very interesting man. I can't say I know enough to discredit the OP but it seems pretty unlikely that OP is correct. Show us the tattoo seems like the same sort of moving goalpost as show us the birth certificate
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  Caedes

  You have made a wrong assumption about my beliefs. I don't believe in ghosts.

  You clearly haven't read my post, I didn't accuse you of believing in ghosts, I said the supernatural.

  You don't know what concrete and abstract thinking is. Changing your mind does not mean you're an abstract thinker.

  I didn't say I was an abstract thinker, I clearly said that you would presumably call me a concrete thinker. I was pointing out that your loaded language was no different from the intellectual bullying you accused others of. I was also pointing out that your 'concrete' thinker is a lot more flexible in their thinking than what you describe as an abstract thinker.

  I am afraid you're mistaken about a lot of things in my post and sadly I did not post clearly enough to help you see my perspective.

  I can see your perspective, I just disagree with it. Feel free to point out where I am mistaken, us childish 'concrete' thinkers like to have things spelt out.

  Abstract thinking is a skill that adults develop.

  Another ad hominen attack on those who disagree with you.

  It's the ability to read between the lines with out all the evidence.

  Why on earth would you want to believe things without evidence, believing things without evidence makes a person foolish and gullible.

  The ability to have dicernment about a particular situation or topic and draw conclusions based on limited information.

  We all have limited information, nobody here is suggesting that we have all the answers except for the likes of Perry.

  Concrete thinking is black and white thinking. Only drawing conclusions if you can see them. The world is not black and white, showing understanding for a variety of people and situations requires abstract thinking, we can't always see everything, so we need the ability to read between the lines and teach our children to do the same.

  Another ad hominen to suggest that those who disagree with you lack understanding for other people. The world isn't black and white, that doesn't mean anyone has to believe in things without evidence.

  When I say there is no such thing as the supernatural that is reading between the lines, that complete lack of empirical evidence is a big enough smoking gun to read between the lines and say there is no such thing as the supernatural.