Thanks everyone for their input. I have been offline for several days, I will definitely get back in touch with everyone that has shown interest and I appreciate all the things to consider. My first goal is to put together a initial plan - I am going to brainstorm, then I will send it to the people who have said they would help. Please send your feedback to me. Anonymity and privacy is guaranteed on my end. I will then send out an updated plan and ask again if anyone wants to be involved, I will respect all requests for privacy. My goal is to help those in need of assistance in starting over. Thanks again.
Layla33
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An ex-JW underground railroad system
by Layla33 ini have been thinking about this since yesterday or maybe a little bit longer, but cognac's situation situation really struck me and so many others that are in a situation that seems not only like psychological torture, but where someone almost seems imprisoned against their will through the wts society, it seems to happen in marriages, but not always.. i am a big forensics person, so i was watching some mindless program on television about forensics or something like that (could have even been law & order) and they were trying to find a woman who had "disappeared" and what had actually happened was that a group of people who didn't really know each other, had this silent group who would pick someone up from one point to another, get them away from their abusive spouse/situation, and help them find a job and a place to stay.
it took them at least three weeks to track the person down because each person really didn't know the other, they were just one check off point for another.. and i was thinking, couldn't we create a safe haven for those in those high pressured situations?
i would be willing to help start it, financially support it, etc i am just in the planning, thought process stage, but i would love to have an aresnal of help from others, who could assist people that are trying to break free, start over, and all of that.. would anyone else be interested?
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Elder in my old hall is DFed wow!
by Alexia ini ran into an old friend spontaneously over the weekend.
(one of the few jws i actually considered a friend back in the day).
we were briefly catching up and she mentioned an elder in my old hall is now dfed.
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Layla33
I'm sorry that DF doesn't sound right. He was protecting his daughter. Any person in their right frame of mind would have done the same.
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I Still Get the Feeling I'm Doing Something Wrong. Ever Get That?
by cognac injust about everyone i've known my whole life thinks somethings wrong with me because of my "abnormal thinking".
everyone is in agreement that there is something wrong with me.. i just keeping thinking i'm doing something wrong or i should be doing something different.
i don't feeling terrible about it or anything, just this nagging thing in me.
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Layla33
Someone else said symptoms of deprogramming and years of indoctrination, I completely agree. Cognac, the things you are feeling are all facets of what has been taking place in your life. You are not allowed to challenge what they have deemed "truth" and because of that you have been filled with guilt and fear for honestly examing life through your own eyes as an individual.
The path of individuality is much stronger than the indoctrination of group think, if you allow it through fruition, you will find yourself.
You are getting there, there is absolutely nothing wrong with you. Freedom is just around the corner...
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An ex-JW underground railroad system
by Layla33 ini have been thinking about this since yesterday or maybe a little bit longer, but cognac's situation situation really struck me and so many others that are in a situation that seems not only like psychological torture, but where someone almost seems imprisoned against their will through the wts society, it seems to happen in marriages, but not always.. i am a big forensics person, so i was watching some mindless program on television about forensics or something like that (could have even been law & order) and they were trying to find a woman who had "disappeared" and what had actually happened was that a group of people who didn't really know each other, had this silent group who would pick someone up from one point to another, get them away from their abusive spouse/situation, and help them find a job and a place to stay.
it took them at least three weeks to track the person down because each person really didn't know the other, they were just one check off point for another.. and i was thinking, couldn't we create a safe haven for those in those high pressured situations?
i would be willing to help start it, financially support it, etc i am just in the planning, thought process stage, but i would love to have an aresnal of help from others, who could assist people that are trying to break free, start over, and all of that.. would anyone else be interested?
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Layla33
I am in the beginning stages of figuring things out. But I think there are those that would really appreciate having something like this. I was also thinking specifically of those in abusive situations, homosexuals that are coming out and are facing horrible situations. Maybe we can find people from Silent Lamb.
I need about a month to plan, but right now I just want to very loosely see who would be interested and hear from others about what may be needed to organize it, things to consider and all of that.
Thanks for all the input! I hope to see more.
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An ex-JW underground railroad system
by Layla33 ini have been thinking about this since yesterday or maybe a little bit longer, but cognac's situation situation really struck me and so many others that are in a situation that seems not only like psychological torture, but where someone almost seems imprisoned against their will through the wts society, it seems to happen in marriages, but not always.. i am a big forensics person, so i was watching some mindless program on television about forensics or something like that (could have even been law & order) and they were trying to find a woman who had "disappeared" and what had actually happened was that a group of people who didn't really know each other, had this silent group who would pick someone up from one point to another, get them away from their abusive spouse/situation, and help them find a job and a place to stay.
it took them at least three weeks to track the person down because each person really didn't know the other, they were just one check off point for another.. and i was thinking, couldn't we create a safe haven for those in those high pressured situations?
i would be willing to help start it, financially support it, etc i am just in the planning, thought process stage, but i would love to have an aresnal of help from others, who could assist people that are trying to break free, start over, and all of that.. would anyone else be interested?
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Layla33
I have been thinking about this since yesterday or maybe a little bit longer, but cognac's situation situation really struck me and so many others that are in a situation that seems not only like psychological torture, but where someone almost seems imprisoned against their will through the WTS society, it seems to happen in marriages, but not always.
I am a big forensics person, so I was watching some mindless program on television about forensics or something like that (could have even been LAW & Order) and they were trying to find a woman who had "disappeared" and what had actually happened was that a group of people who didn't really know each other, had this silent group who would pick someone up from one point to another, get them away from their abusive spouse/situation, and help them find a job and a place to stay. It took them at least three weeks to track the person down because each person really didn't know the other, they were just one check off point for another.
And I was thinking, couldn't we create a safe haven for those in those high pressured situations? I would be willing to help start it, financially support it, etc I am just in the planning, thought process stage, but I would love to have an aresnal of help from others, who could assist people that are trying to break free, start over, and all of that.
Would anyone else be interested? What kinds of things could we provide, what would be the guidelines? I think it would be a wonderful resource for so many. What do you think?
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CASHLESS SOCIETY - HOW CLOSE?
by 1914BS inlately i have noticed very strange activity at my local gas stations that i go to in the vancouver area people are being asked to use the debit/credit cards at the pump.
the last time i tried to use a debit card to pay gas inside a gas station i got scolded by the cashier, he said "please pay at the pump!!.
i say gee i guess he is having a bad day or something..... well so i go to anouther gas station - a shell station and the same rhetoric .."please pay at the pump!
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Layla33
I think we are very close, and on some levels I feel like it is more about control. It is hard to trace people through money, but very easy to trace people through use of your credit card, debit card, etc.
I did an experiment one month where I tried to see if I could live completely without using any cash (paper or coin) and I could, it wasn't even that difficult.
It is only a matter of time...
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How Did You Deal With Weirdo Witnesses?
by minimus ini know that some believe all jws are "weird".
but i'm not talking about that.. there are some real weird witnesses!
you know, the ones everyone had in their hall that everyone talked about or laughed at.. we had one 25 year old man who was pioneering and he used to go out to literally every neighborhood in the city.
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Layla33
I knew one pioneer sister who was so zealous, she stopped on a highway and backed up to witness to road construction workers. She was always doing crazy things like that. Other jws made fun of her and always rolled their eyes behind her back, but I liked her. After getting to know her, I realized that she was so zealous, because she really did love God and was desperately fighting sexual urges since she was unmarried and apparently not good enough for any of the "brothers" at our hall. I recently heard that she was df'd for fornication.
Passion will do it to you everytime. Never bottle it up, you must live!
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Sex and the City Movie
by lonelysheep ini saw it on friday night and loved it!
it was funny, sentimental and never dragged.
there were two theaters full of women.
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Layla33
I really loved it. I threw a Sex & the City party, where we dished, washed some of the better episodes, had Cosmos and then went to the theater. I really enjoyed it, I had a blast and it was fun to bond with the female friends. Not the greatest movie ever made, just good times - oh and LOTS OF SHOES.
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I'm meeting with the elders...
by cognac ini was so adament with my husband about not meeting with them./ i said "no" under no uncertain terms that i did not want to have this meeting.
so, they have been hounding us for days about it, repeatedly asking.. finally, my husband and the elder both come up to me asking about it.
so i just said to elder that the last meeting was discouraging and i don't want to be put through that again.
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Layla33
Yes and if they are taping it, you can always plead the fifth amendment, that will really piss them off.
Every question I would say, "I'm sorry, I will not answer that question" and "I plead the fifth".
Remember, you are an adult, you have free will and they can not make you do anything you don't want to do. Stay strong.
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I'm meeting with the elders...
by cognac ini was so adament with my husband about not meeting with them./ i said "no" under no uncertain terms that i did not want to have this meeting.
so, they have been hounding us for days about it, repeatedly asking.. finally, my husband and the elder both come up to me asking about it.
so i just said to elder that the last meeting was discouraging and i don't want to be put through that again.
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Layla33
I'm sorry but that is psychological warfare, they are trying to break you. They can't force you to do anything, all of this religious pressure is ridiculous. I am sending out positive energy to you in this time. Be strong, don't answer any questions you think might trip you up, in fact, if it were me, I WOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING. Let them talk to the whole entire time until they are frustrated, fumbling and have no place to go.
If they tape you, make sure they leave you with a tape. I would honestly seek the help of an attorney, a private one without your husband because they are seriously trying to break you down and you have rights here.
Again, save your money and find a place to go. I wish we had a JWD system here for women going through this, like they do for women that are abused, a safe house to get away from these cult tactics.
peace be with you