What a shame. I am sorry to hear of it.
Layla33
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Isaac Hayes Died
by Justitia Themis inhttp://www.cnn.com/2008/showbiz/music/08/10/hayes.obit/index.html.
(cnn) -- soul singer and arranger isaac hayes, who won grammy awards and an oscar for the theme from the 1971 action film "shaft," has died, sheriff's officials in memphis, tennessee, reported sunday.
singer issac hayes seen performing in the u.k. last year.
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Dearest Simon...please help some of our old (and banned) friends.....
by oompa inbeksbks and changeling for two..... i sense a kinder, gentler simon right now.
many people here had strong feelings with all the sudden news....and may have offended you.
you had every right to ban them.
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Layla33
C'mon!! You are really reading waayyy too much into this. Have you been around long? The violation of peoples private lives - I can name five instances right off the bat. Two involve Richie (a poster called his elders; another poster called his work to and made inquiries last year); a poster read of an elder who was involve in a drunk driving accident and killed a girl (the poster did a little internet research and called the guy's employer to give him an earful about JW elders); Simon just told us that people were threatening him, his family and had contacted his employer; another poster was outed after a attending an apostafest and this caused much trouble with his family. I know there have been others stemming from info voluntarily sent via private message to people they don't know. For some reason they trusted the person but the recipient used that info against the sender. SOOO. Just what do you think is out of control?? Where did you come up with the idea that personal data has been stolen?? You sound like you've been hanging around the 'other' board a little too much.
Again, I don't know what happened, I was away from the board for about a week, when I came back I was trying to understand what had happened. There is no "other board". I was concerned about what happened to Simon and when I read about someone looking up IP addresses and getting information, I also assumed that the database was broken into, or some realm where people's private information has been jepordized. I was very concerned about that. This has happened to me before and when someone may have gotten a hold of any personal information, you are always wondering how or what happened, that's what happened in this case.
I haven't even been posting on here for a year. I joined in 2005, but only started posting in Jan. I don't know enough about all the things that go on nor do I even pay attention to all the arguments, debates, etc. I have no idea what JWO is or anything like that.
What do I think is out of control?? The fact that there is a faction of posters on here that are hateful and cruel enough to steal people's information and harass them. The fact that hateful and cruel and obviously deranged people would harass the owner of this site to the point where he has to close down. And for what he has found out, how many other's could possibly be doing the same thing. What I do know is that it is not just this site, in my time online I have seen FIVE forums have some of the same thing happen.
I have a right to be concerned and if there is something I need clarification on that's fine, but don't tell me I don't have the right to ask questions or understand what has happened. And yes, I will be concerned about anyone that went as far as looking up IP addresses and getting information on anyone in this forum, because that anyone can be you or me or anyone else.
I don't know anything about why people were banned, and again, how did that get so out of control?? I just asked the question, because I don't know any of what went on. I post on here, but goodness, I don't live on here or do I follow any one person or event.
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Dearest Simon...please help some of our old (and banned) friends.....
by oompa inbeksbks and changeling for two..... i sense a kinder, gentler simon right now.
many people here had strong feelings with all the sudden news....and may have offended you.
you had every right to ban them.
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Layla33
What do you mean, what database? I know that Simon and others have been harassed and basically stalked by a group of hateful nasty people, but I had assumed that stemmed from people using the relatively common knowledge of name and location and going from there. Are you saying that the JWD database has been broken into/stolen/breached somehow? I did not know this, please someone point me to what I have missed.
For people to go through the amount of trouble they went through, I really believe some type of IP address and database violation had to occur. I deduced that some type of breach happened on this site, from this message:
There are a number of people who have absolutely violated the privacy of others, caused problems in their off-line lives and appear to have used information sent in PMs on other forums and possibly email addresses and passwords used to register on the other site to do this. I believe that an offer I received by email to buy the domain name and database was from them and part of why they want it is to continue their abusive behaviour.
I have received a number of genuine offers to buy or take over the forum but please don't be offended that I am not willing to take the risk that it is someone possibly acting on other people's behalf.
The database is not going to be sold as-is. Even if I agreed to sell the archive I would erase all PMs, IP addresses, Email addresses and admin conversations before it was transferred and I intend to do this anyway when it is archived. I take people's privacy seriously, always have and will continue to do so. (of course I would not sell the site to the dysfunctionals)
You should always be careful with the amount of personal information you reveal online and check into who is running a site that you are intending to register on. This is not intended to scare people or put them off going to other sites but at this time there are people actively seeking peole's information who have demonstrated that they will use it in an attempt to cause people harm or inconvenience. It pays to be careful!
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Dearest Simon...please help some of our old (and banned) friends.....
by oompa inbeksbks and changeling for two..... i sense a kinder, gentler simon right now.
many people here had strong feelings with all the sudden news....and may have offended you.
you had every right to ban them.
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Layla33
Why were these people banned? I also would like to know who were the poster or posters that stole the database with our information. This is completely out of control. I still can't believe it has gotten this out of hand...
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Layla33
I was sorry to hear that.
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Any Buddhists here?
by DevonMcBride ini recently started studying buddhism and found it to be very deep but most of it makes a lot of sense.
any other buddhists posting here.
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Layla33
I'm Zen Buddhist and I can recommend a few sites to visit. This one is pretty good.
This is my favorte: www.zenguide.com
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I have a new great-grandson!!
by Eliveleth inour great-grandson was born this morning, evan ryland.. he is 7lbs10oz and 19 inches.
is the first that we will be able to hold.
the rest are still captive in the.
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Layla33
How very blessed you are! I wish you nothing but joy...
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DISFELLOWSHIPPED is not in the dictionary
by Layla33 ini just thought i would share.
it's a made up word, there's no real definition.
i am composing a letter and it just made me giggle, i thought i would share.
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Layla33
Interesting. It's not in the dictionary I used, but interesting to see the link. I still think it's a hoot. Oh, and MS Word doesn't recognize it as a word, either.
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DISFELLOWSHIPPED is not in the dictionary
by Layla33 ini just thought i would share.
it's a made up word, there's no real definition.
i am composing a letter and it just made me giggle, i thought i would share.
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Layla33
I just thought I would share. It's a made up word, there's no real definition. I am composing a letter and it just made me giggle, I thought I would share. Happy Friday Everyone!!
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I'm writing a letter to my brother
by Layla33 inthere has been something gnawing at me for a while, something that not until this morning did i bring to the forefront of my mind.
i come here mostly to read what others are doing and offer support, distantly check up on the latest news in the wts - i say distant because a lot of me doesn't care whatsoever.
i haven't been a jw for 18 years, my family has long accepted that - we went through our fights, disagreements, but now it isn't a big deal.
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Layla33
There has been something gnawing at me for a while, something that not until this morning did I bring to the forefront of my mind. I come here mostly to read what others are doing and offer support, distantly check up on the latest news in the WTS - I say distant because a lot of me doesn't care whatsoever. I haven't been a JW for 18 years, my family has long accepted that - we went through our fights, disagreements, but now it isn't a big deal. Heck, my JW dad and stepmom are coming to my home and throwing a barbecue on LABOR DAY. LOL I am going to my grandmother's house and spending the entire day there - everyone knows, accepts, once a while a word or sentence is said, but that's it. I digress.
The other day, someone new started posting and something triggered within me because something he was writing or retelling seemed familiar. Honestly, I think a few of my relatives post on here, but this young man reminded me of my baby brother. Same age, same area.
The JW religion is something he and I have never ever discussed. He's so much younger than me and has a different father, once he graduated from high school and moved away, we only speak occasionally. Yet, I get updates from other family members. He is not a JW and on more than one occasion, he has said it is a cult, but I know he also has suffered from depression and periods of isolation. Last night, I had a dream that my brother was there in my living room, bleeding and crying for me to save him. It broke my heart so much, that I woke up weeping. And I thought about it - here I am posting on this site, discussing aspects of this religion, ways I have overcome it to help others, and I am a fraud because I haven't even reached out to someone in my own family, that I love with all my being and talked to him honestly and openly about how damaging I know this religion can be.
Now, my brother could be on here, I think I have an aunt or cousin (but I keep it to myself - although I have a good idea) and maybe someone else, but I need to speak with him directly.
I'm writing a letter to my brother today. It's long overdue...