Posts by JWdaughter

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"Honour" Killing in Pakistan

by cofty in

25 year old farzana iqbal was stoned to death by a crowd led by her own father and two of her brothers outside the high court in lahore yesterday.. her crime was to reject her cousin, who her family had decided she should marry, and fall in love with a man of her own choosing.. thousands of women are murdered every year in so-called "honour killings" but convictions are very rare.

pakistani law permits victim's families to forgive a murderer, but in these cases the killers are family members who are nominated to carry out the execution by the rest of the family.. this is what happens when you allow a mysogynistic religion to influence secular law.. reuters report...l.

JWdaughter

Ther ar arrsts and warrants out. Against th law and religion but stupidity often trumps all.

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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?

by The Searcher in

how much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?

share your horror story!.

JWdaughter

I'm kind of curious about how this is working internationally, in other countries that hav much less money to start with and that actually might need a KH. They have no resources to offer (significantly). Do they get loans or gifts to build halls? Assuming that the entire system works differently tax and charity wise in othr countries, historically, how have they managed those KHs in "darkest Africa" or India or the Philippines,for example.

And if they got loans,than what is the WWKH building fund all about when apparently (from what I have seen so far) NO ONE gets a 'free ride". All JWs are buyinng their ownn litrature and building their own buildings (or contributing to phantom buildings as in Mexico and So. America)

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Are the Jehovah's Witnesses rewriting Jehovah's Law regarding Polygamy?

by I_love_Jeff in

watchtower: 9/15/1956 page 572.

"although for a time god permitted the israelites to practice polygamy, yet this was not gods purpose for them, nor did he command them to adopt this practice.".

verses please.

JWdaughter

Sarah, each wife is a individual. I don't think that OT verse does much to further your take on this, but the arguements against polygamy in the NT are pretty much refutable if someone wants to bother. I sure don't think such a practice should be promoted, but so long as everyone is consenting and adult, I'm not going to fight against those seeking that right. Iwould rather have it regulated toadults than have it hidden and forced on minors against their will or using their youth and naivete.

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Are the Jehovah's Witnesses rewriting Jehovah's Law regarding Polygamy?

by I_love_Jeff in

watchtower: 9/15/1956 page 572.

"although for a time god permitted the israelites to practice polygamy, yet this was not gods purpose for them, nor did he command them to adopt this practice.".

verses please.

JWdaughter

There is no place in the Bible that forbids marriage to any number of people. In fact, the part translated that elders etc should be th husband of "one" wife could be translated as husbands of "A" wife-and as the verses go on to describe that a man needs to show that he can manage his own household, this makes sense (the word translated as one is often,in other scriptures translated as "a"or "first".)

However, I would say that polygamy is not something that most would or could accept in our day, and no one should be thinking there is some extra special righteousness in following this practice.

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Would blood mgmt improvements have been made without firm stand of JW's

by berrygerry in

http://o.canada.com/news/national/blood-transfusions.

thoughts?.

JWdaughter

I think (along with Wasanelderonce) that AIDS is what did it. Hepatitis is scary enough for people to think 2x. But if it is death or an infitesimal chance of gettng a blood borne illness, I will take my chances with whatever gives me the better chance.

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Scared I'll Never be Happy Again

by Stumbeline in

so it's' been 8 months since i was disfellowshiped.

i moved out of my mothers house accross the country to room with a friend.

things have been going ok, it's just strange to be so far away from everything that felt familiar, even the meetings.

JWdaughter

Stumbeline,

You don't have to follow the JW line of what an ex or apostate JW is. You don't have to drink, smoke or hook up with anyone if that is not really what you want to be doing.

Get the therapy recommended, but mostly start building LIFE. Get your education started, or at least employment-start moving in the direction you wish to go. Join a book club or a hiking group or a dining club or something that interests you. A wine club or a puppy training class (ok, you need a dog for that!). Start exploring your natural interests, go to a book reading, take up swimming or tennis. . . stay physically fit-it will support everything else.

Don't long for a life you never wanted just because it is familiar. Fix your settings so your mom isn't going to see anything that you don't want her to see on FB.

Please don't fall into a pit. Thats what they want. Even your mom wants you miserable and devastatedso that being a JW looks good in comparison. DON'T PLAY THAT GAME.They will win.

Best wishes.

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How many remember the 15 min break Between the Public Tlk and WT Study?

by Wasanelder Once in

as kid i remember a break of 15 minutes between the public talk and the wt study.

all the new ones and "weak" ones ran out to smoke.

loved to see the attendant round them up to come back in when the droning began again.

JWdaughter

This all ended when I was too little to appreciate the 15 min break. Dang. CANDY? We weren't even allowed to doodle on the margin of the stupid WT study w/0 getting a dirty look by some of the old ladies(and a pinch/evil eye from mom)

I grew up in the 'beat your kids if they aren't paying attention' generation. No smoke/candy breaks for us! I'm lucky my mom wasn't inclined to abuse like Bro blankety blank was. His whole family looked whupped.

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JWs in a frenzy!

by leaving_quietly in

anyone else get the distinct impression that jws are being worked up into a frenzy with all the changes and activity nowadays?

by the end of august, there will have been four campaigns inside of a year.

one last november, a memorial campaign, a convention campaign and an advertise jw.org campaign.. then there's the conventions with all the hooplah around that with all the video, and the aggrandizement of synchronized gb talks.

JWdaughter

I think they are making hay while the sun shines. they are spinning this "100 years since 1914" THEIR WAY before folks get started thinking and wondering about the "history" and investigating it on their own. Keep them busy with the WT version of the story and they won't have time to do indepedent study.

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Grieving in JW Land

by cultBgone in

while experiencing a seemingly annual time of grief over the deaths of my sister and mom, a few other posters mentioned they experienced similar episodes linked to family deaths.

i've known some in my jw family who have this shared experience as well.. i know that grief as an emotion must be dealt with, that is, allowed to happen and be experienced, or we end up stuffing the emotions inside ourselves.

and any emotions we've stuffed and hidden will always try to get out in the body's normal course of healing itself.

JWdaughter

Hi, I'm sorry for your loss.

I think it is worse for JWs than just not being able to grieve properly. With my non JW dad dying, my mom just went into an alcoholic stupor for a few years. Everything she knew said that he died "knowing" the "truth" and rejected it. I also think a big part of the problem is that she doesn't truly "buy" it herself, but can't/wont articulate her issues out of loyalty to the organization

My mom and dad loved each other a lot. He put up with her being a JW and she put up with him rejecting it. I know she worries for him still cause her hope for the future conversations are always qualified by the fear of what will happen to him.I don't even know the official WT teaching on it, but I do know that death is something that weighs very heavy on my mom for every one of her family members, especially the her (JWish) brother.

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My Story

by objectivetruth in

i'm 30 years old, and i was raised in the organization, my parents and grandparents are witnesses.. i grew up in a small town, and due to boredom or adhd or rebellion, i never took 2 minutes to look into the religion.. i always went to meetings and field service.

my parents were regular, but never "super-witnesses" so it was always the thing we did (meetings and service) not much more and nothing less.. the congregation, that i grew up in was for the most part friendly and enjoyable.. small towns, are very unique and they cannot be compared to larger city congregations.. i honk that they are a living and breathing organism, depending on the coordinators personality, so goes the personality of the congregation.

thi king back, most of the people in the town that i grew up were good people, just simple hard working & honest people... i really long for the innocence, of the time when this was the truth, and there were no worries.. driving to the conventions at 3 am with my dad and another brother, them slicing meat, me sneaking around the halls of the college, getting into all kinds of things.. conventions were a really special time for me... when i was young me and my friends would run around, messing around, pulling pranks on people, getting into forbidden areas.. running in the hall ways.

JWdaughter

Ah, the good ole days. It wasn't all bad, just the religion part:)

Looking forward to hearing the rest when you have time!