Posts by JWdaughter

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Wondering what you guys think about child abuse...

by bobert in

to start off, i'm not saying this happens, or doesn't.

i'm just a bit confused on the subject, and what you guys are always talking about.

what exactly is it with the wt on the issue of child abuse?

JWdaughter

Child abuse in the org was traditionally kept in house. JWs were oftn counseled about bringing reproach upon Jehovah's house/name/people. We were counseled to not sue a brother. We were told that we needed to deal with things btween brothers rather than bringing courts or police in to things.

Officially, they now do it differently when abuse is reported to them, but there is still a stigma against anyone reporting a brother(or sister,I guess) and elders in many areas have done everything they could to wiggle out of that obligation. (clergy priv/not clergy-whichever works better). In the UK recently, there was apparently somuch support for an abuser that the victims were (essentially) forced to confront the abuser so that they were actually DFd-in spite of a conviction in a court oflaw for the abuse.

The org is whacked in this subject still and has a long way to go so that they are more interested in protecting victims than the org. reputation.

OTOH, I have read of a couple of accounts of elders making sure to do th right thing for the law and the victims. They are the kind of elders that could save the org, but those ones were probably deleted immediately. The good ones seem to get a conscience and that doesn't go well withbeing a borg following elder.

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Mom

by JWdaughter in

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so, i'm visiting mom and had a great drive with her today in the mountains.

it was gorgeous and a good day overall.. i asked her a little advice about a issue i am having in my marriage/business about going beyond my comfort zone.

i am trying to figure out what is reasonable for my husband toask of me socially when it is totally out of my comfort zone and i discussed that i didn't want to be close minded and stubborn just because i am squirming a bit at what he is asking (nothing actually wrong, bad or anything like that, just not natural for me).

JWdaughter

Villiagegirl. I am writing this from WA state,half a nation away from my husband, wearing nothing but jeans, a top and my moms cardigan. (I'm freezing).

I cover my hair to pray. And if I am in Saudi or Egypt. I didn't in Pakistan.

You have some kind of ugly ideas about my faith that I can't disabuse you of in a post, but my husband walks next to me and holds my hand. I drive and travel without him. He is the soul of kindness and if he saw you needed anything,he would do a u-turn to go back and give it to you.

Yes, some men would insist on me covering. That is a cultural thing often,and though some feel a woman should make the decision, it is HERS to make religiously. It is like any kind of faith based action. Whenn it is forcced or compelled, it means less than nothing.

There is nothing in the Quran about treating me like a worthless dog. My husband treats me like a queen-with love and respect. I know that not allmen do-of any faith.

I would like to point out that for allthe abuses you read about in other countries, you are reading the stuff that shocks those people too. In THEIR countries, they know all about (christian) priests /ministers abusing, mothers killing their babies, husbands killing pregnant wives/girlfriends, 13 year old girls having babies.They see shows about skanky teenagers hitting their parents, using drugs, committing all kinds of crimes-stabbing a bunch of people at school or shooting them-and they think that is what our culture is about-just like YOU have your mis/pre conceptions about their culture.

Please don't be so provincial. But thanks for your concern. I have spent the last 2 weeks with my family in WA and am enjoying it immensely. My mom has two puppies (ok, little dogs) that are darling and my son's daughter is 18 mos old now and is my heart. My kids are well and healthy and working hard. My ex is even being halfway decent (for one of those redneck types-if you want to generalize). My husband and I will hopefully come back to visit in Aug or Sept together. I don't like being apart so long,but he has been getting in lots of tennis and eating more Pakistani food soI am sure he isn't suffering too much.

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Mom

by JWdaughter in

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so, i'm visiting mom and had a great drive with her today in the mountains.

it was gorgeous and a good day overall.. i asked her a little advice about a issue i am having in my marriage/business about going beyond my comfort zone.

i am trying to figure out what is reasonable for my husband toask of me socially when it is totally out of my comfort zone and i discussed that i didn't want to be close minded and stubborn just because i am squirming a bit at what he is asking (nothing actually wrong, bad or anything like that, just not natural for me).

JWdaughter

Villiagegirl, my mom was inactive/unbaptised BUT still a true believer. She is still a true believer.

My husband has a habit of just shoving a phone at me to say hi to his old friends and business acquaintances or expecting me to write friendly, chatting notes to absolute strangers (business or personal) The phone calls freak me out. Idon't even like talking on the phone to people I love! And in his case,sometimes they speak barely or NO english and just want to say hi or hear my voice. Its weird. My husband thinks its friendly. Its just AWKWARD to me.

Sorry it isn't something more salacious or scandalous:)

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Mom

by JWdaughter in

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friends

so, i'm visiting mom and had a great drive with her today in the mountains.

it was gorgeous and a good day overall.. i asked her a little advice about a issue i am having in my marriage/business about going beyond my comfort zone.

i am trying to figure out what is reasonable for my husband toask of me socially when it is totally out of my comfort zone and i discussed that i didn't want to be close minded and stubborn just because i am squirming a bit at what he is asking (nothing actually wrong, bad or anything like that, just not natural for me).

JWdaughter

So, I'm visiting mom and had a great drive with her today in the mountains. It was gorgeous and a good day overall.

I asked her a little advice about a issue I am having in my marriage/business about going beyond my comfort zone. I am trying to figure out what is reasonable for my husband toask of me socially when it is totally out of my comfort zone and I discussed that I didn't want to be close minded and stubborn just because I am squirming a bit at what he is asking (nothing actually wrong, bad or anything like that, just not natural for me). I told my mom I knew she went out in service when she really doesn't like it (its no secret and not insulting or anything to say this) and she told me she did it because she thinks it is importannt and pleases Jah. I wasn't even tryingn to pick on her religion, but I asked her why? She only ever brought a JW in by 'friendship' witnessing. Our next door neighbor thought my mom was a goodwoman and she liked her and respected her. That iswhy she became a JW ( neighbor's husband, son, and son in law are elders, neighbor and daughter are pioneers) In any case, my mom is the only person I know that joined as a result of the door to door work and that is because her mom was happy to accept the free babysittting from the JW who took my mom to the meetings when she was a baby and my grandma was having another 11 months after my mom was born). I pointed out that we ddin't know any JWs who were met in FS, so it seems a very unproductive thing. She lookedthoughtful,not mad.

Anyway, I was thinking that maybe she will cut off th FS and just go around being nice to her neighbors like she did when our neighbor joined her (my mom was inactive and unbaptised but a true believer back then) She did more for her religion by being a friend than she ever did from torturing herself out inFS. I wish she would stop it. It is a huge stress to her personality.

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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?

by The Searcher in

how much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?

share your horror story!.

JWdaughter

Kaik, I don't think most JWs pay $5 per person per week even in the US! And who is looking over thier shoulder and declaring folks weak? Ithink your parents are more generous than most are in reality.

Pledges are not supposed to be requested with any specific amounts are they?! Someone should kick thier elders.

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Local JW Booth - Are You STRESSED?

by talesin in

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so, yesterday i approached the local jw booth that is a few blocks from my house.

they are set up on the sidewalk, at the edge of a downtown park.

the display was merely rows of a magazine, with the headline *are you stressed?*.

JWdaughter

Very gentle and kind approach. I like it. She can't even say anything negative about your visit unless she flat out lies. Hehehe

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Rooming request

by paladin in

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we received a phone call from the summer convention rooming department representative.

he requested that our complimentary room payment for our three day stay be paid at the rooming dept.

and not to the hotel.

JWdaughter

Probably told that he could rent the rooms from the WT that they had gotten complimentarily . And since the rooms belong to the org (were given to them in exchange for a certain number of bookings) that the rooms they are renting through the ORG need to be PAID TO THE ORG, since w sure know there are no needy widows, orphans or single parents that could use an authentically free room.

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I dont think we should past judgement on people who post here for the first time

by smiddy in

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just saying , my 2 cents worth .

if they have an agenda it will be revealed in a short time , let them play it out .. however , some genuine first posters can be put off by somebody jumping the gun and attacking them .. please give the first posters time to get to know this site.. smiddy.

JWdaughter

I'll be nice.

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How many have stopped attending at YOUR Kingdumb Hell?

by hamsterbait in

on a recent thread about the fleecing of the sheeples, one poster said their congo was down to 85 publishers from 102.. the last hall i attended had 80-odd publishers 20 years ago, now only 30.. how much of a decline at your kh?.

JWdaughter

My aunts small cong merged with another small one in her KH (that had 6 congs and now has 5). There are rumors that two others will merge soon. That will make meetings on Sundays easier, Iguess!

My moms KH has 3 congrgations. I don't know the size.She is in an affluent area and it is about 10 miles from nearest hall. I will say that I have not seen a lot of new KH's. Or any. Today we drove by a KH that has always been on a route from visiting my aunt. It is in a small town in the mountains. It used to be kept up, landscaped and looked cheerfull. Now it is still a KH, but other than the storefront ones with bars that I saw in the projects in the Bronx, it was about the saddest looking hall I ever saw. Weeds abounded in the parking lot, the paint looked dull on the building and the sign. You could practically see tumbleweeds blowing through. This is an area with a lot of hispanic families and I doubt any close KH's. Not affluent. It was a beautiful day and everything else looked enchantingly beautiful (mountains of W. Washington on a sunny day in may-stunning!) but that place looked like it was cursed by an evil witch. It looked gloomy and had no businss doing so on such a beautiful day.

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Why do Christian nations think they can assimilate Muslims into their communities , does Islam attempt to assimilate Christians in their communities ?

by smiddy in

islam /muslims today are what christianity was centuries ago , the two beleif systems are like oil and water , not to be mixed .

christians are not tolerated spreading their infectious disease amongst muslims, in islamic countrys , and harsh penalties apply for them doing so in muslim countries , including the death penalty.

stonings , whippings etc.. on the other hand christian nations are very tolerant of muslim extremists who incite hatred and violence on their own territory , and they get a slap on the wrist and say dont do it again .

JWdaughter

Humanity has gone through some interesting stages. Historically, religion has been used by some tocontrol and manipulate others. I don't think that all Christians today (of any sect)wish to identify with the Christians who participated in the Crusades,the Inquisition, Witch Hunts, Holocaust---and yet many would just label those folks as "Christians". We can address atheists and discuss communism in the USSR, China, etc. HOWEVER, not all Christians are those people or those "kind"of people.

You don't judge the entire faith by certain ones in it ifthey are Christian.

I am Muslim and am NOT alQueada or Boko Haram. I am not even particularly sectarian-I am simply Muslim. I am not political about it and I see how people who want power use it to manipulate. I see how weak powerless people use it to bully. I see how cultural ideas predating ANY currnt religion have flourished among people who were basically living a near stone age life until a generation ago. Ignorance of religion and the world in general abounds.

I know educated and modern Muslims and the world they want for their children and yours. I was in Egypt over the last 4 years. I lived there for part of it. I taught Muslim teenagers and lived with Muslim families. They are very human and also humane. They come from different situations and different places and different cultural traditions. Some overseas don't accept differences any better than you all.

My faith is very humane. So was what Jesus taught. What men have done with both religions-not so much.