Posts by JWdaughter

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Infant Baptism, alive and well in JW land.

by Gill in

the april 1st watchtower has an interesting section on : 'meeting the requirements for christian baptism.'.

paragraph 9:.

in the case of youths, come develop a measure of spirituality at a relatively tender age, while others take longer.

JWdaughter

I have seen the Williams sisters, Venus and Serena given a bad time alternatively about not being "good" witnesses and not being baptised yet (at their advanced ages).

I don't see that the association has clipped their wings any. I wonder why they make the claim at all? Beautiful girls, very skilled, very imperfect....I am thinking baptism will happen when they retire and are out of the limelite.

If my dad was gonna push me, Id sure rather he was pushing the part that would make me a world class tennis player rather than to be a drone JW. I think the Williams are JWs like many Jews are "Jewish.' That's what they were born into and they don't eat bacon on the Sabbath.

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The Mafia Is Excommunicated Per The Pope

by minimus in

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i hope they don't put a hit on him.

this pope tells it like it is!.

JWdaughter

I've gained a respect for this pope that surpasses the benign comfort of the late Pope John Paul. He was kinda cuddly, but this new one seems serious about following Jesus and expecting decency. I respect that.

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New Light "Orwellian" projectors.

by DATA-DOG in

our kh passed a resolution to purchase a new projector and screen.

so that we can be ready for the agm this year!!

if the rc wan any indication of things to come, the meetings will turn into full-on brainwashing sessions like never before!!

JWdaughter

I do think that the push for the screens and media updates are leading to a more controlled dissemination of information via "talks". I think that the ministry school will get a whole different focus as only professional level speakers who have been vetted and likely pre-taped, will be presenting the talks and schools.

Encouraging everyone to get wired. . .well, soon they will be attaching electrodes. . . :) Ok, they will get their own web service somehow that will be controlled by the WTS. I don't say that with 100% conviction, but I think it is likely as that is the only way that they can begin to control the JWs. There will be a monthly service fee since this stuff doesn't come free. . . can you imagine all JWs having their email and browsers available to be monitored? That would definitely come under the category of a crazy thing that doesn't seem practical, don't you think?

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If it weren't illegal...

by Rattigan350 in

i was listening to a circuit overseer's talk and he mentioned about how a sister wanted to simplify.

she had a couple of dogs.

then he related that she said that all she had to do was get rid of the dogs.

JWdaughter

Children can be baptised, puppies cannot. Children can up the hours and be counted. Puppies cannot.

Wait till they grow up and get their own mind and their own conscience, THEN shun them if they don't conform. Easy peasey. As good as dead.

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Your final WTF? Moment!

by restrangled in

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it was a long time coming for me.....when i read about the extened generations, after being raised on1914 being the be all end all, and millions would never die....that was the end.

i was part of the 1975 fiasco, the 6 month only truth book studies, suffered through a disifellowshipping and their version of a rewind.

i finally am free and hope others can eventually look in instead of inside looking out!

JWdaughter

Lots of moments, but realizing that in the end, it didn't matter how much evidence one has about the WT, that the argument is that (basically) "its the lesser of the evils" (Look how much WORSE everyone else in Christendom is!!).

Really, that's all you really got, folks? Cause ultimately, it IS all they have when they know and they choose to stay. My mom is that person. She can't see what any person in the world does that's good because she decided already that they are wicked and evil for not being a JW-and don't confuse her with any pesky facts! She decided. Thats that.

Any person who thinks religious affiliation is gonna save them is nuts. No matter the religion. I am a person of faith,but I do not discount goodness where I find it as being un-noticed by God simply because they don't address God the way that I do.

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I saw a trolley (cart to you cousins in the U.S.A.)

by punkofnice in

yes.. peterborough city center u.k. ''what does the bible really teach'' displayed on it.. a family of 3 i know were sitting on the bench just behind it.

i'm not going to say anything derogatory about them as they are nice folks even if they have to shun me now i bear no malice.. as predicted not a single person was paying any attention as they walked by.

i noticed some other canvassers (non religious), were actively approaching people and handing out leaflets.. on the market i saw the jw charity stall and again not a single soul was interested or even near it.. i'm glad this 'urgent never to be repeated work(tm)' is being vigorously carried out by god's chosen people.

JWdaughter

Whenever I see pictures of the trolleys, they only seem to have a lot of copies of one magazine on them. Maybe 2, honestly, it looks pretty boring in any case. NOT like there is a lot of reading choices. Perhaps that is simply the choice of the cart witnesser.

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When I decided to no longer turn in time...

by SG098 in

being my 1st post i figured i should relate a personal experience.

a few months ago i decided to stop reporting time.

i'm mentally out of this cult now but still trapped because of family.

JWdaughter

Welcome. I wish they would stop pussyfooting around. Its taking forever. How did it end?

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What a market of 650,000,000 can bring to consumers.

by fulltimestudent in

imagine a nation like the usa with a population of 650,000,000 jammed into the same geographical area.

that vision allows us to see what may be the future in contemporary china.

particularly so, as there are another 650,000,000 ready/wanting to move into that same vision.

JWdaughter

It looks a little overwhelming to me.

How many JWs in Shanghai, anyway?

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Pointless Speculation

by konceptual99 in

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i've noted a few people aluding to a rumour that there will be a "big announcement"(tm) that will "shock some"(tm) later this year, probably around agm time.. in the interests of pointless speculation, what might this be?

i am sure we can all think of some outlandish possibilities but i am interested in what could have some possibility of actually happening.. for example,.

- sisters able to do some aspects of ms roles.. - regional conventions (nee.

JWdaughter

I'd kind of like them to close the doors on the "ark". Let's fish or cut bait, people. Lets lose all excuses for mealymouthed 2 faced teachings that just piss me off. I'm sick of reading their sorry excuses and justifications for their false prophecies.

The thing is, they could totally spew some stupid day or teaching that turns off a bunch and is not anything that could be doubted-something totally whacked and wrong and proven to be so-but JWs will still go along with the program, just as they have been doing since the 60's! THAT makes me nuts. I know there is NOT ONE THING that they could say or do that would jolt my mom out of her slavery to the org.

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My Experience and how I finally let myself see the truth

by OneEyedJoe in

first off - for those lurkers who feel guilty just for being on this site and reading this (even if you don't read any further, as it is your right to choose that course) i want you to know that you're not alone in what you're going through or in what you are feeling.

if you read on, i hope my experience may be of some small help to you.. this may be long, but i'll try to organize it in a way that doesn't make it painful to read.

to start, i feel it is most beneficial if i'm upfront and honest with my goals from posting this, which are (in order of the degree to which they motivated me):.

JWdaughter

I was with you until you got to the point (thinking in a JW-y kind of way)where you show her the discrepancy and ask her "doesn't it seem dishonest"?

You are already on thin ice there. I'd leave it less loaded. "Why do you think that the organization would misquote this so badly? It is a distortion of what Darwin said!" Do this after you have clearly just SHOWN her the difference for herself.

Then you are being factual, not judging them or accusing them. I don't think you should pussyfoot around the issue, but be delicate about the approach or you will turn her away before she even reads the quote. Instead of you deciding it is dishonest, you are opening the way for her to think about what reasons the WT would have to distort the words of a scientist of Darwin's caliber to make their point. She will consider whether it could be an honest mistake. . . and as it won't be the only example (maybe you should have a big pile of them before you ask the distortion question)she will really have to reject the honest mistake theory.