ON another forum a JW was defending this as a reasonable thing. No one who didn't realize it just hates god. Girls were never molested or did anything that would break a hymen back in the day. There were no incompetent or very small men (who couldn't break a hymen or couldn't find it) SOOO stoning these girls was a totally reasonable response to her parents not being able to prove her chastity.
JWdaughter
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What happens to a women that is not a virgin on her wedding night..
by jam indeuteronomy 22;20-22 stone to death.
a little extreme don't.
come on jehovah, what changed your mind??.
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Is their a new holocaust in the making ? Are jews being made the scapegoats again ?
by smiddy inmass immigration in the world "seems" to have led to a rise in anti -semitism in the west.
france now has more than six million muslims.. germany now has four million muslims.
the netherlands has almost one million muslims .
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Why are there NO articles about JW near death experiences and death bed visions?
by freeatlast36 inmy dad died recently and was a long time jw.
we have had some interesting experiences with his passing and have been researching for other jw stories and there are none.
anyone know why?
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JWs don't mention them because they don't believe in them. They'd be DF'd if they dared to say that they saw angels or a light at the end of the tunnel or experienced any kind of NDE-because when they are dead, the belief is that they are DEAD with no consciousness whatsoever. If they stated anything else they would be, at best, counseled and probably put in the category of nutty people-like the folks that think they are anointed.
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For Bible believers-Inspired Bible?
by JWdaughter inone issue i have with declaring the bible an entirely inspired work from god is the bit in the ot about killing girls who were "proven"to not be virgins on their wedding night-by stoning them.
the absence of blood on the sheet or cloak was considered entirely valid proof that they were immoral and so they were to be stoned.. that is scientifically invalid.
not all girls bleed when they lose their virginity-in fact, the more skilled the partner, the less likely that they will bleed at all.
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There are a lot of justifications for a lot of scriptures, but the virgin bit is really a "jump the shark" kind of story. No justice there when it could have gone unmentioned and no one would be the wiser. But it wasn't about God, it was about stupid men who were hung up on bloody virginal wives.
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Why would a business man / elder sign a blank document?
by LogCon inappellant.
appellant.
the appellant.
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JWdaughter
My husband sells insurance. IN his case, an acquaintance of his who is woefully ignorant of the insurance industry, thought that my husband could just lend his name, licence and signature to his new business venture (he wants to open a chain of insurance companies in the Houston area and my hubby has a great reputation) so that he will be able to get in quick with the various companies (be signed up with them) and basically, avoid the hard part of starting. He offered my husband a big chunk of money (signing bonus and ongoing commissions/residuals) for his participation. My husband would basically have nothing to do with it and this guy would hire brand new agents of various licensures to run things. My hubby would have no financial stake in it going into it other than GETTING money.
He refused. Why? Totally unethical (which the other guy didn't even realize, he is THAT ignorant, but he is offering enough money that many would have said yes). He would really have no input into anything and they really just wanted his signature when they need it. He gave up a lot of money, but he is keeping his reputation (so many people have no clue as to how much an ethical business man give up $ to keep his ethics and honor). Having your name being used to facilitate deals that you are clueless about is a really really bad idea if you want to stay in business.
Insurance and annuity work is sometimes very detailed and involved and deals with a great deal of money-ensuring that you are dealing with the right people, the right documents and the right accounts and that the customer understands what they are signing-it's critical stuff and a lot of hanky panky could go on. . .but it won't go on with my husbands' name affixed to it.
Only an idiot signs a blank piece of paper.
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Could it be that Jehovah is punishing me for leaving his religion?
by Julia Orwell ini know it's a completely absurd thing to say, but something happened to me today that triggered the old cult reaction.
my mind instantly lapsed back into that of a jw and for a split second i thought that because i wasn't doing jehovah things that jehovah's blessing had been removed from me and this is why my life seems to be running into so many dead-ends.
as a jw i attributed anything good happening to me to being the result of my being a good jw and dutifully doing everything the borg teaches.
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Life is tough sometimes. For those in and out of the Borg. The beauty of your situation NOW is that you are out of the Borg, so it is just one LESS shitty thing to have to deal with while dealing with the others. Good thing is that you have a dad who will take you out to play. Family is worth more than a job and you still have yours. So many JWs just abandon theirs if they don't play the game. You didn't do that. You are not any kind of screw up, its just a cycle in your life. You are in the agitating cycle. After the spin out, you will start filling up again!
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For Bible believers-Inspired Bible?
by JWdaughter inone issue i have with declaring the bible an entirely inspired work from god is the bit in the ot about killing girls who were "proven"to not be virgins on their wedding night-by stoning them.
the absence of blood on the sheet or cloak was considered entirely valid proof that they were immoral and so they were to be stoned.. that is scientifically invalid.
not all girls bleed when they lose their virginity-in fact, the more skilled the partner, the less likely that they will bleed at all.
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I haven't believed the "Bible" to be inspired for years, but I could always have a respectful dialogue with folks who totally believe the Bible is the inerrant, inspired word of God. They could have their explanations for discrepancies that were based on things that one could(perhaps) give them as a different perspective, a different understanding, historical context, etc, etc.
That one though-the bloody sheet bit, is total proof that there is no God behind that. It is not a medical theory, it is not a perspective issue. Its is flat out fact that can't be denied.
I wonder how the JWs and other fundamentalists of the Christian persuasion work that one around in their head? I can't even remember questioning it, myself until recently.
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For Bible believers-Inspired Bible?
by JWdaughter inone issue i have with declaring the bible an entirely inspired work from god is the bit in the ot about killing girls who were "proven"to not be virgins on their wedding night-by stoning them.
the absence of blood on the sheet or cloak was considered entirely valid proof that they were immoral and so they were to be stoned.. that is scientifically invalid.
not all girls bleed when they lose their virginity-in fact, the more skilled the partner, the less likely that they will bleed at all.
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One issue I have with declaring the bible an entirely inspired work from God is the bit in the OT about killing girls who were "proven"to not be virgins on their wedding night-by stoning them. The absence of blood on the sheet or cloak was considered entirely valid proof that they were immoral and so they were to be stoned.
That is scientifically invalid. Not all girls bleed when they lose their virginity-in fact, the more skilled the partner, the less likely that they will bleed at all. The older the woman, the less likely she will bleed. Even when a virgin.
So, how could one believe in an that the bible is inspired/written by God when it made that kind of statement and directive?
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not till after the meeting.....
by sowhatnow inthe dreaded phrase i will never miss!!!.
some of the ones i had to hear ,.
we cant go over grandmas... till after the meeting.
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JWdaughter
I kind of liked the service meeting-that was when lots of the dumb ass things that happened at doors were discussed, and new light, and people in trouble, stuff happening at hall (nothing really, but life as a JW isboringand that meeting was less so than the WT study or the sun talk or god forbid, the ministry school! OTOH, I was happy to leave early cause then I wouldn't miss Happy Days and I would get to watch Laverne and Shirley. My mom hated us watching 3s company, but we did sometimes (most went over my head, though now it looks pretty innocent-back then it was racy).
My mom gave up taking my bro to meetings as soon as she couldn't guilt my dad into it anymore. Not sure of timings, but I'm thinking dad went to a few meetings to calm down my mom as 1975 was looming. We were 8/9 that year. I know my bro never went past the age of 10, so I think my dad engineered that-plus he was a hellion. My mom was well rid of him:) And he was well acquainted with the spanking paddle.
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good news-- step one accomplished!
by losingit ini just wanted to share the good news that wednesday was the last day of my summer teaching internship.
i had a great time with the kids-- they were ready to learn, be challenged and have fun.
and this was summer school!
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JWdaughter
You were having such a hard time just a few months ago and now-ROSES!!! I hope all those who remember your struggles take it as a bit of inspiration and strength to carry on through challenging times. Thank you. Being a teacher is tough, but worthwhile.