I'm a great editor(less skilled writer and can't edit myself to save myself) and I would not change a thing. As an experienced former JW (over 30 years now), I think you said the exact right thing. Wish I could be so succinct! I know you are unburdened now because you kept your class, your dignity and actually maintained a respectful (as towards other human beings) vibe to the elders. Wow.
JWdaughter
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Copy of my DA Letter
by airborne inthis is my first time posting here, although i have been a visitor to it for around a year.
after doing a simple google search under "jehovah'switnesses" over a year ago, i found ttat.
i was deeply unhappy with the congregation and decided to educate myself, and boy what an education i have gotten so far.
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Is new light coming again?
by justme67 ini just turned in my resignation letter to my congregation a few weeks ago.
last week, 2 elders called me to say they received my letter and would like to meet with me to discuss my concerns.
in my letter, i said i had found out about all the child abuse cases that were going on and that i didnt agree with their policy of disfellowshipping.
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JWdaughter
I'd say, "I don't want to be part of an organization where certain men have critically important information that they think could be life saving and they won't tell that person what it is when they are standing right there in front of them." Exit right.
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Are we starting to treat DF people differently?
by Quarterback insome may remember the time when the private study edition of the wt wasn't to be made available to outsiders, and the df'd.. now, with the recent boe letter, sept 1, 2014, it specifically states that jw.org is making the km available even for df'd individuals.. do you sense a new trend developing?.
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JWdaughter
I don't think it has anything to do with DFing. The KM is stupid, boring and all over the internet every month anyways. Why be coy? They are going to save thousands every month by making it available online.
I think that the recent guideline from the org may come into play soon: You know where they tell you that you may be asked to do something stupid-just do it already. . . they are not going to do any of that in anything written. It is going to be word of mouth to JWs that show up are present and accounted for-and trusted. They are going to do crazy ass stuff, but you aren't going to see it in any writing whatsoever. They finally figured that bit out-like we should all know by now not to send naked pictures or take any-ever-because theyWILL get out. The WT learned that it needs to find another way to disseminate info that it doesn't want tracable back to them,but will still be obeyed implicitly by the R&F. Not sure how that will be done, but they are setting everyone up for it.
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HELP needed for a friend, please. Anyone?..
by defender of truth ina friend of mine (who has recently started reading jwn) is having trouble eating and sleeping because, even after having recently woken up to ttatt.. they are still concerned about 'demons, everlasting destruction, and jehovahs disapproval'.. i've tried to encourage them.
i'm sure you all understand that these things can take time, the transition period is often painful, to some extent.
i'm still struggling with anger and depression myself.. i'll be away from jwn, off the internet, and thus out of contact with them for a while (don't ask why)... so please don't expect me to reply to or even look at what you post, .
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JWdaughter
God did not instruct that women could be stoned if they did not have proof of virginity. If God was really the Creator and God had anything to do with the Bible, God would know that a bloody cloth is not proof that a woman is either a virgin or a harlot. A bloody sheet or the lack of it proves nothing at all regarding a womans sexual history or morality-even if one wanted to argue that having had sex makes one not a virgin and therefore impure, 25% of women are sexually abused-I doubt it was lot different thousands of years ago and therefore, a girl could have had her hymen "compromised" and not even KNOW it. She would be an innocent, still. (See Deut. 22)
No just or true God would use this man made judgement to declare a woman an immoral harlot and stone her.
A truly ignorant man came up with that one. Not the all knowing creator of the universe and women!
So, don't worry about what the Bible is saying to condemn you or scare you.
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strange experience at the RC- was it segregation?
by tornapart ini went to the rc last weekend (for my hubby).
it was at a new venue.
a large arena usually putting on music concerts.
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JWdaughter
Just ANOTHER reason not to go to those self congratulatory worship sessions for the fds.
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strange experience at the RC- was it segregation?
by tornapart ini went to the rc last weekend (for my hubby).
it was at a new venue.
a large arena usually putting on music concerts.
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JWdaughter
they roped off areas because if you were all crammed together in the stadium, they wanted to get THOSE shots for their photos, videos, etc. It looks more impressive to others if its crowded. You know we see pics of sparsely populated venues and it just looks kind of sad-even pathetic.
they were just ensuring some good pics. It would be nice if they would just ensure that everyone got a seat with a good view and easy access to restrooms that didn't threaten you if you use more than one towel, but. . .
As to the Indians, I still wonder what the heck the org was thinking! Idiots.
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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JWdaughter
Lenna, you will be fine. The people who love you will chalk up your zealousness to your age and youth. A LOT is forgivable and many will be happy to indulge your little folly.
If you can go to a trusted non JW family member and tell them whats going on, your doubts, etc, they will likely support you and get the word out so that no one bugs you about it. (depending on your family,some get nosy, some just sweep under rugs of love). People that love you will be RELIEVED that you are over "that phase'. don't be offended, they will call it your JW phase forthe rest of your life and that is probably the extent to which it will ruin you. OTOH, you will be OUT and you will not be dragging in your husband or future children.They are going to love you and not give a crack about this.Your kids will bless you as they go to scouts, play sports and sing in the school choir.
You have all of life before you. Soon this will just be a bad choice that you quickly righted. If Brittney Spears can come back, and Robert Downey Jr. can, then your little escapade with the JWs is so rightable.
Right on, girl!
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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE
by LennaB inmeeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.
(astrology, racism, ect.
) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.
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JWdaughter
You will be ok. I don't know anything about your marriage, but just because you married for the wrong reasons doesn't mean it is doomed. It means that like every marriage, you need to work at it. It is worth it or it isn't but your husband isn't a JW, is he? Plus. You are not baptised. PLUS. You haven't done anything other than the marriage that changes your status-you didn't go awol from army, right? You are twenty. You will do fine.
As to eternity. Read scripture, Value Wisdom when you recognize it, pay attention to where you are getting your information, don't accept things at face value. Pray. Even if you don't know about God, pray, pour out your concerns and your issues and your joys and your sorrows. Use it as a kind of therapy (I've always thought that prayer is more about us pouring it out than God needing to hear-he already knows it all).
Talk to your husband and see how he feels about the marriage. It's HIS life too. If there is love between the two of you, an early marriage is not fatal. And neither is an early divorce if that is what you decide on. Use birth control until you have figured that bit out. Nothing is guaranteed, but at this point, I think it wise to hold off on that particular joy.
Take care!
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strange experience at the RC- was it segregation?
by tornapart ini went to the rc last weekend (for my hubby).
it was at a new venue.
a large arena usually putting on music concerts.
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I wonder why they don't think that the Gujarati bros and sisters would like to visit with everyone else? Did they have a different language session or something? That is the only reason I could think they would try to segregate and even that is pretty lame as most people like meeting people from other places. I bet they took one look at the segregation and all went home. OTOH, ifthey are Indian natives, they proably went to the car park and ate their own lunches and made tea the way they like it on a burner.
Recent immigrant Indians are not likely to eat out unless required to and are likely to make tea the way they like it. I'm related to many- I know of what I speak.
I imagine you are in UK (tea reference) . If you get a chance, try Kashmiri tea at an Indian or Paki tea place. It's awesome!! Or Karak, which is an Arabic version of Indian style tea (usually with cardamom. OMG)
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Any Experience with a Nook, the Barnes and Noble e-reader
by Band on the Run inmy nook has been so much fun.
the nook was chosen b/c you could get in store support.
i was always driving to barnes and noble in the beginning.
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JWdaughter
i love my kindle-never lost a book, but if Amazon charges me for anything, it is always re-downloadable. My only problem was my charger, but I was using my phone charger which seems the same, but my kindle doesn't prefer it. Anyway, they sent me a new one and after I realized what MY problem was. So, I have two kindles (they didn't want the old one back for some reason).
The charger is a PITB and it is hard to find the Belkin case that i have for my kindle fire now because of all the new models. It is leather and hot pink, but nearly 3 years old now and its looking a little ratty, so I want a new one (Its kinda perfect!) I need to look around for that again. LOVE my Kindle and if not for the fact that it works great, Iwould buy more of them (but I already have a spare).