Relate your conversation to the issues that brought her to this point and then see where they grow naturally. She already had issues. This current thing is making her pay attention. So, work with the situation at hand and ASK your mom what has concerned her over the years. Then address those things.
JWdaughter
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My JW mom is now willing to "listen" to our side...Need advice pls
by 2pink inmy husband and i (both born in jws with extended family all "in" except for one of my sisters who left when we did) left the church 5 years ago.
we did not fade, we just didn't believe it anymore, told our families so and left.
obviously, big drama in our family after this, messy feelings, etc.
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For 46 years Jehovah's Witnesses compromised their worship in Mexico to retain ownership of material property
by Watchtower-Free inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qohven3gjlk.
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JWdaughter
I knew of this when it was still going on. I still can't understand how JWs excuse this. It started in 1917 to control the CATHOLIC church. Yet, it was still the Catholic CHURCH for the entire century. The Catholic church itself was actively persecuted for decades. It was the Catholic church itself that fought for the rights of all churches in Mexico to worship freely as the harshness of the laws began to soften and times changed, it was the church that pushed the reforms for religion in Mexico. It wasn't JWs who were fighting for their rights or who gave up anything for it. They just played the persecution card-you know, OTHER churches could worship and pray. . . right? UGH.
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Disturbing or amusing?
by JWdaughter inanyone here notice how the icon that comes up in your tab for jehovahs-witness.net is almost identical to the one that the wt chose for jw.org?
coincidence?
i wonder.
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JWdaughter
Lol-vidiot, i tend to agree.
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...I DON`T LOOK GOOD NAKED ANYMORE...
by OUTLAW in.. this song was just sent to me... it`s funny!...
.. "i don't look good naked anymore" .....the snake oil willie band.
click the link below:.
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JWdaughter
I'm 48. I'm pretty ok if I take my glasses off!
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Hi! I'm new here
by Powermetal4ever inthought i am gonna introduce myself.
i am a girl from a country in europe, and not an english speaking one, so if i am writing strange or something, you know why.
anyway, have been reading here for a while now, the other day i thought it was time to register as a member.
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JWdaughter
You are already well into fading and your parents have clued in. It will really only become a problem if you get married in a church or get born again or something(things they can't really ignore)-they are likely more aware of what you are up to than you think. Start missing more meetings. When the elders or magazines say something really controlling, illogical or stupid(so obvious that they can't deny it)-mention that point. Mention that 'doesn't that paragraph seem really manipulative?' "Do you ever wonder about . . . ?"
If you are asked point blank, think about this. You could tell them that you respect them and never want to hurt them, so you would rather be thought to be weak than to open your mouth and be an embarrassment to them (we mean DFd and they know it, but some things are better left unsaid-they don't want to go there!) The only reason I say this-you don't owe the org anything, but your parents can be made to understand that you don't really buy into it, but you aren't going to embarrass them publicly out of respect for their feelings. That is a huge concern for most. They love you and will worry. If mom pushes you into a study or elder meeting-don't do it. Just say no.
WELCOME. Your English usage is better than most of ours. No worries. Sorry for being bossy.
The meetings are a pain in the butt-literally and metaphorically. They are redundant, boring and a waste of time. And you don't need to hate the WT or JWs to think that or say it.
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Disturbing or amusing?
by JWdaughter inanyone here notice how the icon that comes up in your tab for jehovahs-witness.net is almost identical to the one that the wt chose for jw.org?
coincidence?
i wonder.
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JWdaughter
Anyone here notice how the icon that comes up in your tab for Jehovahs-witness.net is almost identical to the one that the WT chose for JW.org? Coincidence? I wonder.
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Governing Body Worship in the WT: July 15th, 2014 issue
by Oubliette inthe july 15th, 2014 issue of the watchtower has the "life story" of gb member gerrit losch on pages 17-22.. think about it.
this losch love-fest is 6 pages of the current wt!.
that's nearly 20% of the ragazine.. is this the beginning of a series of idolatrous articles indoctrinating jws with gb worship?
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JWdaughter
If a guy like HIM could be on the GB, who knows what your own high school graduate could become in the organization!
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Jack The Ripper Unmasked?
by metatron inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746321/jack-ripper-unmasked-how-amateur-sleuth-used-dna-breakthrough-identify-britains-notorious-criminal-126-years-string-terrible-murders.html.
to be accepted as fact, these claims will have to be replicated.
metatron.
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JWdaughter
Vivianne, I read the article and while the shawl provenance is unproven, they did mention how it was extracted and that mitochondrial dNA from descendants of both parties was used to compare.
It's a long time later-proving it is kind of a intellectual game in any case, but they actually did make a fairly good surface case for it. I don't remember why they settled on checking the dna descendant of the alleged Ripper. It will be interesting to see if it has any further substantiation. Maybe it is like one of the fake mermaids that keep popping up, maybe it is like Troy. You never know.
I have read Cornwells work on Sickert and while it was compelling, I was not convinced of it. There wasn't enough circumstantial evidence for me. DNA evidence, if proven with some degree of credibility, would be pretty compelling. At this point, it is interesting but not yet enough for ME to say 'case closed' and you know, my opinion matters to so many people:)
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PART TWO of AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE BY A PRACTICING JEHOVAH'S WITNESS
by Sparks inwhile you are sitting there reading this, there are literally hundreds of thousands of young males and females all over the world [ mostly in america / canada and england] sitting in their grotty little smelly bedrooms or flats, designing computer viruses that they will up-load onto web-sites to cause anonymous innocent peoples computers to malfunction.
these creeps spend literally weeks,months or even years hoping to make a computer viruses that will get into peoples computer bios to completely destroy their computers.
they never see the peoples anger, frustration and distress.... the damage can cost each person about 1,000 [ $1,660.74 ] or more to replace a basic new laptop or tower.
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JWdaughter
These are the same people that go door to door presenting as "good news" a false hope that isn't even from the Bible that they pretend to believe.
They are followers of men and having experienced the WT brand of "love", well, if I was still among them, I'd be on the same antidepressents my active JW mom takes (prozak chased with way too much alcohol).
One need only glance at the home page to know that they have not come to a WT approved site (though seriously, there is only ONE WT approved site and discussion sites are not allowed, last I knew)
So, get off hour high horse and go leave whatever WT filth is required this month. This gets you no points in this world or the next.
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Anyone else notice the new Terms of Use on jw.org?
by leaving_quietly ini first noticed it today... slides up at the bottom.
i wonder why they felt the need to do this?
this is just silly for a religious website..
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JWdaughter
Can they assign themselves the right to not allow us (statutory) fair use of the materials from the site that are written and disseminated in other places and formats?
What am I missing?