Posts by JWdaughter

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New BOE letter: Re: Survey on Use of Printed Publications

by pixel in

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: survey on use of printed publications .

dear brothers: .

the branch office is working on arrangements for the 2015 regional conventions.

JWdaughter

My goodness. The amount of energy it will take the guy asking everyone is ridiculous for the amount of money they will save on printing their little "schedule". Seriously, what are they? 2 pages? And the conventions keep getting shorter-maybe not even that.

They could merely announce the option and guess on the high side because it is going to cost some guy a lot more of his TIME than the $2-5 bucks it takes to print ALL of the congregations programs. You know many will totally love the electronic. They can count on it and guilt people out about it without making some guy ask 30 heads of households stupid questions.

That it has come to this (electronic programs) is not a surprise, but that they are making it into a make work chore for some overburdened secretary already is obnoxious. To save at most-$5 per congregation-which will donate probably a couple of thousand directly as well as subsidizing their hotel rooms and travel expenses generally throughout the year by staying in their assigned hotel 'choices'. Guess! If you get it wrong it won't be a tragedy. Same crap as last year.

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New Article in JW.ORG "Should Christians Drink Tea?"

by EdenOne in

should christians drink tea?.

would you like a cup of tea?.

this seemingly innocent question has been asked countless times, and is regarded as a gesture of courtesy and hospitability in many parts of the world, in both eastern and western culture.

JWdaughter

I just saw this and while I suspected parody from a quick scan, I also know that the WT will, if inclined, find a reason to make a stupid rule and impose it on JWs.

Makes me thirsty, I'm getting a cuppa! Anyone want to join me?

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Conti Appeal Preview - Oral Argument Jan 14

by Chaserious in

with hopefully a good deal of interest here in the conti appeal tomorrow (or later today, depending on where you are), i thought that on my ride home from work tonight i'd preview what to expect and what i think the key issues are for any who are interested.

i have had a busy few weeks and haven't had time to read everything, but i had some time to look at the appeal briefs during my work commute the past couple days.

it'll be interesting to see what develops out of the network news coverage of this case.

JWdaughter

They knew he had issues with young girls and they still ALLOWED him to go out in service, going to doors of strangers who had not only no knowledge of this man, but who were told that these people are "ordained ministers" which gives them a sense of security that was false-thinking that they represented a religious organization and had been in some way vetted by them to be decent human beings.

They failed when they didn't remove his publisher status. No (JW) sex offender that is known to them or can be known from police/court records should be representing (any) religion in any fashion.

Period.

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Conti Appeal Oral Arguments slated for 9 A.M., Jan. 14, 2014. Recap of Defendant Watchtower's Complaint of Errors for your info.

by AndersonsInfo in

conti appeal hearing-summary of watchtowers complaint of errors with plaintiff's reply.

the following statements were taken from the introduction of respondents brief a136641 -attorney richard simons' response for plaintiff.

defendants argue that the affirmative duty imposed by the trial court impinges on their religious freedom.

JWdaughter

How long is this step supposed to take?

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Called on a DF'd person today.

by kairos in

wow, what a surprise that was!.

i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

totally caught me off guard.

JWdaughter

My aunt was DFd and is now back in, drug in her poor husband and is a pioneer. God bless them, but they are a mess. He, almost 60, just got made a MS. Their KH,incidentally, has gone from 5 congregations (!) to 3. Yah,they have massive growth in the PNW.

Lost my own thread! . . . anyway, I never shunned her and she does not shun me. I am something between a little sister and daughter to her more than a niece-Ithink that has something to do with it. She sounds like such a JW robot sometimes that I just want to slap it out of her- but she was so messed up with other things for so long, that it seems the lesser of the evils of what her life has been. She DID leave and her life fell apart completely, got sucked into every issue imaginable with her family. Most had started while she was IN and her whole life was informed by the borg, so the WT really shouldn't feel proud of itself when lives collapse after leaving. If folks have a good foundation, (religion is part of it, not everything) then merely changing or even quitting a church should not send one into a spiral pit of destruction.

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Muslim saves Jews

by Giordano in

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/12/the-muslim-who-risked-his-life-at-a-paris-kosher-market-to-save-seven-jews/?hpid=z2.

on friday afternoon, as a string of terror attacks roiled france, 24-year-old mali citizen lassana bathily was at work in the underground stockroom of a kosher market named hyper cacher near the porte de vincennes in eastern paris.

he heard gunman amedy coulibaly enter the store and open fire, killing four customers, it was later learned.

JWdaughter

I think it says more about the general attitude of Muslims and Jewish people that in the heart of Paris, 2 Muslims were working in a Jewish(kosher) market and that one of them actually made a fairly successful rescue possible that would not have been otherwise. Those criminal terrorists WERE extremists. They weren't normal Muslims.

Nothing can excuse what those men did at the newspaper or the market. It wasn't self defense and it didn't "defend" Islam in any sort of way. All it did was make average Muslims a bigger target for haters.

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Kingdom Consolidation and Sales are coming – Reliable Source

by thedepressedsoul in

i heard form a reliable source that a kingdom hall consolidation is going to be happening in the us.

currently they are looking at every kingdom hall to see if they could and should sell it.

any kingdom hall that has not been updated and is in a bad location (long driveway, not in a visible location etc...) will be sold.

JWdaughter

I think they are going to slightly consolidate(lose the nastiest buildings and see how much folks will put up with-test the waters), build up more than they need to (cost is no object we want to be convenient toeveryone so that no one has to suffer to get to the meetings!!) and make everyone happy with pretty new buildings then seriously consolidate(a created crisis or imagined persecution-basements may become involved), getting rid of many of the fine, new buildings at a profit as they were built with donated labor. Elsewhere on this board we heard of how they are going to build buildings that had more street appeal (commercially viable in good areas!) It really all makes sense from a business standpoint, since they are, after all, a business to make money.

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Brooklyn Update – January 10, 2015

by Sour Grapes in

jw
friends

email sent to me from a friend in new york city..

brooklyn update january 10, 2015.

we have spent the last few weeks in training at the montgomery facility (near walkill) there are 6 couples that were trained to go on the road as ldc field representatives of the branch.

JWdaughter

If you really got this from a friend, and he is a happy JW, he might be pissed to see his letter with names, dates and places identified on an "apostate" website.

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Is The Borg going back to “Old School” thinking & getting more hardcore?

by thedepressedsoul in

im still in and i cant help but feel nervous as more and more changes are coming forward.

i cant help but feel that they are starting to get more hardcore again.

let me explain.

JWdaughter

Vidiot's right. It is the same in any cult. Take the people who want the rules the most, give them a lot of indoctrination with very little actual knowledge or study, tell them they are brilliant and pious for knowing (whatyou want them to believe) and you get al-quaeda. The Taliban, and ISIS. You get the abortion opponents who threaten the lives of, or kill doctors or journalists that oppose them, you get nazis and you get fundamentalist extremists of all stripes. The WTis playing the game the way all cults do. The WT elites (at all levels) are getting what they want out of it now. I don't doubt tht they will grasp for more-cause that is what all the evil villians do,right?

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Who Benefits from the Multi-Billion Dollar Real Estate Empire that is WT?

by TTATTelder in

this thread is to formally address this subject.

this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).

please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.

JWdaughter

Not to insult pimps, but why is the GB member dressed up in pimp clothes?