Posts by JWdaughter

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Ran into some JW's.......but this time I did the teaching ;) x

by snare&racket in

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so i went out today with my broken leg and got accosted by an old lady, with some magazines.. it was my first ever encounter with a jw in ten years, and i had said 'i know you are jw's, i'm not interested thank you.

" twice.....then she started talking about my broken leg and how wonderful we are made and how amazing the healing process is.... and that's when it all started...."i used to be a bethelite pioneer, now i'm an atheist doctor...".

she was with me a good 30 mins, her elder husband left very annoyed but she stayed, and she was dying to hear everything i spurted out, despite aggressively defending every point, from military engines to paedophilia.

JWdaughter

I was having a big discussion with my JW aunt who thought she could tell me a thing or three-but everytime I brought up a scripture she changed subject after saying we'd need to sit down with the bible and have a real talk-and not go from subject to subject. I could have stayed on the FIRST subject. But in anycase, I thought on it a few days and decided (haven't told her yet) that I have no interest in destroying her faith. Her life has been a total train wreck and now she is sober(she has been in and out of that and JWs my entire life), in a happy relationship and has a good job. I love her-she has always been more like my big sister than my aunt. She has a stability that I haven't seen in her before. I know it isn't "the truth" as it usually is part of her downfall, but I also know that I don't want to send her down the last dark alley of her life. Being able to prove something from the Bible that I don't have confidence in is a ridiculous ability, but just because I have it, does't mean I need to use it.

A stranger in the street? Yeah, I'd like to talk to one of them. Nothing personal, just their teachings/practices and a bible.

I think you did good. Anyone who is going out and about presuming to be bible "teachers" ought to be able to defend their faith. I don't want to be the passive booby who lets them take authority in a conversation and gloat about it later. I don't want to feed that beast!!

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Time Magazine Article: Now’s the Time To End Tax Exemptions for Religious Institutions

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://time.com/3939143/nows-the-time-to-end-tax-exemptions-for-religious-institutions/?xid=newsletter-brief.

june 28, 2015 .

nows the time to end tax exemptions for religious institutions.

JWdaughter

Forget about a religios exemption and have a merit test for specific charitable exemptions

The money donated to a church or non profit that actually feeds,clothes or shelters the needy. Actual costs of healing ill people or operating clinics. Thats it. Teaching them to read while indoctrinating them should not count. Any kind of enforcing of evangelical interest would disallow exemptions. Religion or any non profits cannot just wipe their tax slate clean by those designations. Yep its more complicated I guess they could prove their true charitableness by doing things with no benefit to them.

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Watchtower 6/28/2015 on 1st Christian Courage, Have the Courageous Watchtower Leaders Ever Condemned Radical Islam?

by skepticSam in

i read blondie's great summary of today's watchtower lesson and thought about all the christians who died from various deaths for preaching the word and because they really believed what they preached the watchtower asked something of this sort, "if you were a christian in the early centuries, could you boldly stand up to all the exquisite tortures hurled at the first century christians because they were not afraid to take a stand for christ or be cowards to evil!".

are you aware of any condemnation made by the watchtower against radical islam or any actions showing their courage and being no part of this world?

they attack patient christian religions but what about others, where is their courage?.

JWdaughter

Normal Muslims condemn radical Islam ist more than WTBTS does. Hello! even al-Qaeda, a radical group themselves, have condemned ISIS!

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Car group stopped by

by All for show in

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a car group out in service stopped by.

we don't even live in the territory,not even close.

we happened to be outside with the kids playing.

JWdaughter

At least they are visiting the sick.

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Videos at the a$$emb£ies?

by punkofnice in

my spies tell me that they are getting shown videos very regularly at the 2 day convention(tm).. i figured it may be because the wbt$ wants mass indoctrination using their tried and tested propaganda techniques.. the average elder won't be aware that the wbt$ uses these thought reform techniques so will be incapable of using them himself.

also, the elder might not put the money grabbing, 1984 ministry of truth spin on things and actually say something good instead.

we know the wbt$ don't like 'good'!

JWdaughter

Huh? They were not any truer in 1984. I think the videos will definitely help the org avoid any unique understandings getting out out there by questionable brothers and sisters. Thecpriblem for them is that the GB is the source of the wackiness teachings.

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We Lost Our Preaching MOJO, how do we get it back?

by skepticSam in

does anyone have any theories why our territory that's be reduced six or seven times over the last twenty years is not covered anymore?

we use to cover our area in less than six months and now nobody really keeps track of how the preaching work by territory is going.

is the advent of the mobile-literature machine why we don't see a zealous preaching spirit?

JWdaughter

I have had visits from the Mormon missionaries 3 times since I moved here and see them in my neighborhood also, regularly. They usuAlly don't have any more than 2 per large congregation(ward) or ward building (3 ward's, usually). In my neighborhood there are 2 close by kingdom halls with 3-4 congregations each. That I know of. Three are foreign language. 2 Spanish and one Cambodian.

Not one JW has come. I work from home. 3.5 months. Twice after nicely and firmly saying no to the lads missionary endeavours,they still offered to help around the house-visible amateur renovations are in progress. No thank s, but they would have actually helped.

JWs won't even come to door. When I lived in Houston, they wouldn't speak to me-not Spanish or just handing out invites and not even very courteous lying at that. The Spanish ones spoke english(there were 3 and one was clearly Anglo). No preaching even attempted.

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2005 - The year the Society began its decline (without anyone noticing)!

by cedars in

i've just finished an article for randy over on freeminds.org, which i've submitted to him for review.

hopefully it should be online soon, so please keep checking!.

the article discusses the fact that the watch tower society is already in decline, and suggests the year 2005 as the turning point.

JWdaughter

Update:

2011 there were 98 branch offices. In the 2015 yearbook we are told there are now 90.

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Tax-exempt Status of Churches and the Gay Marriage Decision

by lambsbottom in

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it will be interesting to see what will happen with the "beloved" 501c3 tax exempt status which the churches hold so dearly onto.

the first-century christians met in homes.

they did not have exemption from taxes to the governments.

JWdaughter

Quarterback is right. That's their out. No one has legally binding marriage rites performed by elders. Too easy. Dang.

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JWism retaking control of wife's family

by The JHWH in

a situation regarding this religion has developed which i fear might have negative implications on me and wifes lives, and i'm looking for thoughts and advice in how to approach the situation.

i'll start with some background information to enlighten the situation.. i'm a male in mid-twenties, raised secularly, married to an ex-jw woman (on paper still a jw though), who's been raised in the jw religion, although somewhat untheocratically shall i say.

for instance her mother has 5 children with 3 different men, all non-jws, and has had many other relationships as well.

JWdaughter

Can you have a semi neutral conversation with bro in law? encourage him to independently research while he is free to do so? You dont have to degrade it, but ask wuestions to make HIM wonder what hes missed. If they have an emptiness that needs filling, address it accordingly. They are vulnerable for a reason. Find out root causes. Good luck.

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Why must sisters wear skirts?

by purrpurr in

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and or dresses?

just what is wrong with a smart pair of trousers?

i'm sure that the women would not start behaving like men or imagining that they have a dick!.

JWdaughter

There is something in bible about men wearing womens clothes or vice versa. However, inthose days they all wore simple lenngths of fabric-very similar. Like the difference between womens shirts buttoning on the other side. So it wasnt about pants, but wearing pants meant for other gender.it was really stylistic. They all covered their heads, even. Fundamentalists have taken a clothing style from another period of time-not ours or a biblical time and determined that those times defined make/female garbs. In the 1700s men wore pants and women wore dresses. Not much exception to the rule.that amish mindset is in some christian groups.

The scripture would perhaps have taken issue with bruce dressing like a girl, but just as mush if kim kardashian wore a mans kilt vs a womans plaid skirt(tho probably happy she is covered at all;) )