Ever think about just saying that you don't want them exposed to the religion because you never want the JW relatives in the position of thinking they need to shun your kids if they don't come to accept it as truth. They were willing to shun you. Tell them you'd rather your children don't have a close relationship to lose than for your kids to face what you have had to face for being similarly exposed to it. You want your kids to only experience unconditional love from family.
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Advice Needed - JW Grandparents
by What Now? inmy family has been out (inactive no meeting attendance or field service) for just over two years..
weve made many changes in our lives, including with our personal appearances (tattoos, piercings etc) that are a pretty obvious sign that we arent going back any time soon.
our families went through a period of time about a year ago when they made a lot of threats that if we left the truth, they wouldnt even be able to share a meal with us, they would stay loyal to jehovah etc.
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Advice Needed - JW Grandparents
by What Now? inmy family has been out (inactive no meeting attendance or field service) for just over two years..
weve made many changes in our lives, including with our personal appearances (tattoos, piercings etc) that are a pretty obvious sign that we arent going back any time soon.
our families went through a period of time about a year ago when they made a lot of threats that if we left the truth, they wouldnt even be able to share a meal with us, they would stay loyal to jehovah etc.
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JWdaughter
Your family is lucky to be around your kids at all. It's good the babysitting is out. I think there can still be a conversation though. Go over some positive character education that you got as a child that is not so much JW centric as it is humanity centric. You can give the JWs credit for that as a generosity though you know it's some stretchy b.s..
Tell your parents that indoctrinating your children with unique religious dogma is not ok, but if they want to include them in their Christian work of feeding the poor and assisting widows(cleaning, cooking, yard work) you would be happy for your kids to help shop or work at a food bank(as age appropriate) you would be happy to work with them in doing some practical Christian loving in your community. They can take that however they want, but it may give your family a new experience and something positive to do with the kids and you.
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Please vaccinate your children
by Viviane inand remember your boosters as adults!.
currently there is a measles outbreak in the u.s. the outbreak is clustered into communities where parents choose not to get their children vaccinated.
vaccination works primarily on herd immunity.
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JWdaughter
Doc, the more deliberately unvaccinated people-or exposed ones go out and about, they are exposing the ones that are too young or medically vulnerable.
Infants and ill babies/children shouldn't have to die for stupidity of others.
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Please vaccinate your children
by Viviane inand remember your boosters as adults!.
currently there is a measles outbreak in the u.s. the outbreak is clustered into communities where parents choose not to get their children vaccinated.
vaccination works primarily on herd immunity.
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JWdaughter
I think that a key bit that the antivaxxers are missing is the issues that can ensue without vaccinations. How many here have seen anyone affected by smallpox, polio, even chickenpox? A high fever for any extended time often results in male infertility (anatomically vulnerable). That's the least of it. You have to be alive for infertility to matter. My husband and his sister were scarred viciously. Their brother died.
The consequences of having those diseases are dire and as we have seen recently, they spread rapidly in a vulnerable exposed population. Like kids at Disneyland. That was "just" measles. Have you seen someone affected their whole life with consequences of polio or smallpox? I have.
I also know this. My nephew, who has been diagnosed with multiple issues, autism among them, was not vaccinated on time because of all his medical issues at birth. He was diagnosed with autism before any vaccinations. Truly autism is the least of his issues.
Vaccinate your kids, please.
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Candace Conti Settles
by Nitty-Gritty inhot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.
but it's all quiet here.
are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?
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JWdaughter
They filed the appeal to support their protestations that they are faultless.
They settled because every time they go to trial it is bad publicity. Newspaper, magazines and entire news segments have exposed the organization's role and lack of moral and ethical leadership and responsibility. The case itself notwithstanding, the publicity is harder and harder for even loyal JWs to ignore/dismiss without question.
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Candace settled and she deserves the peace.
by snare&racket in"hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.
but it's all quiet here.
are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?".
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JWdaughter
I think that they (elders)should be mandated reporters and anyone known to have harmed a child should not have organizational support to represent themselves as ministers. That would be a huge change.
The org can't be held responsible for what they don't know-which is why any one baptised and expected to be a minister-ordained! Should be getting the same background check all teachers and child workers have to. Many churches require them for anyone in the ministry.
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Indian Paradox
by fulltimestudent inwhile researching a comment on the long-running naga rebellion in india, i came across this charming image.
a woman wearing a burqua (so obviously muslim) walks her son to school.
its described as being a festival day, so the boy is dressed as the lord krishna.. from the indian newsnation: http://www.newsnation.in/photos/entertainment/only-happen-in-india-1021/slide1#more.
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JWdaughter
Krishna or Buddha is not seen as a prophet even by ahmadiya Muslims. There is an understanding that there is truth in most religion which is attributed to humanity starting out with truth and it getting mixed with falsehoods. So if a non Muslim religious person speaks with wisdom or truth, it is accepted as such.
there is usually a lot of religious interaction and acceptance in India and elsewhere. It becomes a contentious issue when other aspects of society lose their stability. Folks then want a scapegoat.
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It is just the opinion of men, not a religion...
by punkofnice inan elder in my congo gave a talk.
he was always interesting to listen to and one of the nice guys.
(the nice elders are always targets of the bully elders, no?).
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JWdaughter
Religion, every religion is just the corruption of power over faith.
That elder just proved he was a human with self righteous brown nose inclinations. That he is a JW is only incidental. He'd still be the equivalent jerk in a SBC church, a mosque or the Buddhist temple down the street from me.
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Picking Someone To Be An Illustrious Member Of the Governing Body/Faithful & Discreet A Hole Club What Is It They Look For?
by Brokeback Watchtower inthis is a work in progress so let me postulate a few and then post your observations.. i think when we examine this subject we will be able to understand how they picked this recent batch of new comers who can just about manage to even tie their shoe laces and clearly are almost complete idiots.. i'm sure they test any gb hopefuls as to loyalty and courage to face pressure and make defenses for the corporation sound at least plausible and with in the limits of understanding imposed by the corporations edicts.. i know anthony morris came from wealth and he mentioned in one of his talks that his aged father tried to warn him about giving money to the wt corporation and he said that what his dad didn't know was that he was the society (he may have been trying to get some money from his wealthy dad to give to the corporation as sort of an investment in loyalty that would catapault him to gb stardom and who knows maybe even chief honcho.. so i wonder can some buy their way to the top?
after all it is a scam operation based on bullshit and all the members of the elite are money hungry if not for themselves then for their sock puppet jehovah/me.. what say you?.
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JWdaughter
DD, good theory, but if they have dirt on them, so does someone else. Better to get a not so bright company man who has no dirt, along with no intellectual inclinations, preferably no children, and one who isn't too fooled by any of this. Without true conviction or conscience but rather their looking for a good retirement situation and clout. They had guys who were intellectually curious. They had them with a conscience. That backfired. Some crazy visionaries with weird ideas, quite megalomaniac. . .these new guys are sometimes suspicious by their very stupidity-who couldd BE that stupid, right? Those guys got no where to go but the streets.
I agree that they are no way in charge of anything but stupid deliveries of poorly thought out speeches.
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Massive Growth in Dub Numbers???
by 1rebelheart inso, i left about 5 years ago and at that time, the official ruling on number of members was a little over 6 million.
i google jw out of boredom the other day and find they are now claiming 8 million members.
sooooo.... hold on 2 million increase in 5 years?
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JWdaughter
Doesn't PEW get the member/publisher numbers from the WTBTS? So, whoever the WTBTS counts is the number they start with.