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  Go my invite / think I am now a Do Not Call

  by rebelfighter in

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  my son says hey mom that's your doorbell.

  so answer it.

  next i get, mom it is the jehovah witnesses.

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  JWdaughter

  I wish they'd come to my door!
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  ...the relief of Congregation Members

  by Lostandfound in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just clearing out all old stuff and came across tyhis line in my copy of the uk memorandum of constitution, passed by each uk cong in (i think) 1997).

  this line bemused me as i know of no witness who ever receiver financial help from their congregation.

  clause 4.2.4 read for other charitable purposes including the relief of congregation members who are in conditions of need hardship or distress.

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  JWdaughter

  I have been in churches and now in a different religious organization (keep the catcalls down, please:) ) and all but the JWs have funds to help the community (not just the church members) in need. BOTH in charitable (such as food pantries etc.) outreaches and specific funds to help with emergencies such as evictions after job loss, electric bills, even (surprisingly) the last bit to pay community college tuition that had to be diverted after a smallish medical emergency. I have seen car repairs, etc. One church had a deal with a member who owned a car repair place that he would donate labor if the churchwould pay for materials when a hard case came through
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  California Electrician Dies After Falling 53 Stories...Possible JW and Suicide?

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-construction-worker-falls-from-l-a-high-rise-hits-cars-dies-20160317-story.html.

  social media is saying that this individual was a jehovah's witness.

  can someone from the southern california area confirm this.

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  Whoever lost that man is devastated now. I hope he didn't leave kids behind, but no matter what or who he is, what a tragedy.
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  Estimating future growth or decline of Watchtower

  by shepherdless in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have seen a few posts here, in various guises, in relation to whether watchtower is in decline.

  plenty of people respond, but it is all fairly anecdotal, or "gut feel".

  some of it has been wishful thinking.. as of late 2015, watchtower's numbers suggest it is still growing marginally, but there are various anecdotes on this site of publishers typically being older, and younger ones disappearing.

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  I think the jig is up. The increase is barely keeping up with population growth. Many churches would be happy with that. . .BUT they are clearly aging out and as the older generations pass away, their kids will give up all pretensions of following the wtbts leaders. I think attrition is going to sock it to them, and soon. The wtbts may or may not have money(or maybe they took out loans against all the rich property after donations dropped off long ago and the money jig is really up too) but I think they have full awareness that they are not getting more converts that aren't dragged in by family. The people numbers are dropping and the people they got are mostly broke, save for elderly. That cash cow will soon be gone. Then what? I know a JW being appt as an elder in a hall with just a few years in org. No other qualified men. Only competition is a teenager. He knows nothing, parrots his wife and is clearly involved just for her.probably too sweet to be an elder.it will break his heart.

  Attrition will get 'em.
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  So Proud of Pops

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.

  they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!

  this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".

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  JWdaughter

  You might want to talk to dad about protecting his finances. Perhaps speak to a lawyer, because as his illness progresses, there might be some pressure put upon him. A lawyer is a cheaper alternative preventively than reactively.
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  Sophie gives even more than ice cream money to the WT

  by OrphanCrow in

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  JWdaughter

  Just got done glancing at live kingdom hall site and I thought of how smugly Jehovah's Witnesses brag about how they don't have a paid clergy. I saw KHs and assembly hall's with built in apts for visiting overseerers, special visiting dignitaries, caretakers. . .Then I am reminded of all the bethelites supported by JWs, the assessments to provide cars and insurance and support for overseers. . .and I know the elders are unpaid and overtaxed with responsibilities and often their own finances and I wonder if JWs wouldn't be better off with a self supporting church like the local baptists, whose congregations are self supporting in spite of paying a pastor and staff. They still support charities, missions, food banks, reach out in real ways to the community. . .all that humility and the JW leadership lives without worrying about their bills while the ranks are CONSTANTLY pestered for more money. The leadership has no organised efforts to help the JWs even. Even the first century Christians managed that! They lived in tents and dirt floored houses. In fact, charity in times of need is the only thing I remember anyone collecting money for in the NT. Except taxes, and that was the role of rome. The wtbts seems more like a tax collector than a charity. None of the options for helping was to help their brothers, it ALL came back to sending money to Brooklyn bethel. Or the Cayman islands or where it goes these days.
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  I lied to the elders

  by atacrossroads in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i stopped attending meetings all together in january 2015. before that my attendance was irregular at best.

  my husband followed suit a few months ago after months of research, agony, and indecision on his part.

  from the very beginning i laid low and did not share with anyone what i found out about the witnesses because i did not want to be df'd.

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  I just read the OP and it was reiterated to me that we all belonged to an organization that ENCOURAGED gossip and tattletelling. Seriously, these are all adults who think they need to come to you with repeated gossip from others. Even if it is true, it is really not your mom's business to tattle and not theirs to repeat gossip-which is all that 2nd hand tales is.

  The religion is whacked in that they think they have a right and and OBLIGATION to do these things to others. It's STUPID.
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  Is the WT’s Paradise Earth doctrine a delusion?

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt’s teaching that humans will live forever on a paradise earth will necessitate that given that there will be no more death, then immortal humans will have to be relocated to other planets in order to prevent the earth from becoming overpopulated.. so how many habitable, earth-like planets are there?more and more habitable, earth-like planets would have to become available on a continuous, never-ending basis ad infinitum as mankind’s population grows given that there will be no more death.. the longevity/sustainability of life on these planets will be limited by the fact that the sun serving these planets will eventually die:https://shar.es/1cko6n.

  http://www.space.com/22437-main-sequence-stars.html#sthash.ejbt1xrz.dpuf.

  so immortal humans will have to keep moving from planet to planet.

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  JWdaughter

  Long before the sun dies, humans would have killed themselves off from pure boredom! 10 or 15 lifetimes would be more than enough of this life, even perfected. Seriously. I don't see why I'd suddenly want pet anything's, I don't like animals in the house now! Most of my dead relatives are fonder in memory than reality, and the exceptions wouldn't make it to the new JW world because they rejected the GB authority. Eternal rest is not the worst idea in the world, especially if the alternative is living as a JW for eternity.
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  My old computer is dead: long live my new CHROMEBOOK

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had my previous toshiba laptop plugged into the wall five days ago when a sudden electric storm drove a jagged bolt of electricity earthward and fried my hard drive.

  i posted my sad status on facebook.

  guess who saw it?

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  JWdaughter

  I am happy you have such a kind son, and the computer is a nice bonus!
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  Can I pick up a New World Translation from the JW London head office?

  by Camperdown9 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm an anglican and not a jehovahs witness.

  what i dislike about lots of church congregations is their readiness to make unpleasant and unhelpful comments about other christian groups.

  recently someone in a church tried to tell me a little about the views of jehovahs witnesses.

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  JWdaughter

  Be careful what you ask for. Cults manipulate people.