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  JW came to door

  by gma-tired2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  jws don't waste time talking today.

  she knocked on door, husband answered, she said were doing a world wide work and shoved a pamplet in his hand and left.

  i remember the days when we actually try to get the householders in a conversation.

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  JWdaughter

  We had the "do you speak spanish" and "Which of your neighbors are hispanic" questions twice this month. I live in Houston in a diverse neighborhood. What bothers me is that they spoke English perfectly and no one tried to talk to me. Is the "good news" these days only for hispanics or what? Iwas alreay to get into something with them and they just left so quick I couldn't say anything (my husband answered the first time). I think that is a flippy way of doing business! I live in an apartment complex where there are many hispanic families,but everyone I meet speaks English beautifully anyway. We live in a good area and people here are employed and mostly families. Not one that I know of 'needs' a bilingual minister.
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  Greetings to All!! I'm Baaaaaack....

  by Elders_Kid in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well it's been over a decade since i've been active here.

  life got busy, had some ups and downs, but life is good!.

  it looks like simon is still in charge of the place, although the look is a bit different from last time i was here.

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  JWdaughter

  Welcome back. I don't remember you,but I'll be glad to get to know you!
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  The fiance brought in witnesses today oh joy. QUESTIONS

  by OneStepOut93 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so it's been seven months since i moved out of my parents place and in with my (now) fiance.

  they came to our door this morning and it's been a long time since i spoke to my parents.

  i was never disfellowshipped because i was never baptized but there is still online limited contact.

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  JWdaughter

  Sweetie, don't go to that meeting. It won't help anything. Keep in regular contact with your folks, ignore their coldness and betheir daughter. If they refuse to receive you, that is their problem, but don't shun them in your happiness at being away from the Borg-then they get to talk about their daughter who left Jehovah AND abandoned them. Don't let them tell themselves that you selfishly abandoned them in their old age because they are in the BORG-because that is the mentality they will pick up-they will be the victims if you act the sad, hesitant to contact them kind of apostate/faded former JW. Don't be ashamed of yourself for leaving the BORG. Don't deny yourself your family because they would (somewhat, even) deny you. Ignore any shunning activity asif you are oblivious to their game.

  BUT DON'T GO TO THE MEETINGS. If you are in a KH for a funeral or wedding, don't ACT like the sad sack DF'd person sitting in the back. You have a right to be anywhere you darn well please and unless you are kicked out of the hall for being nice, friendly and outgoing,what can they do to you?
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  Interesting TED talk

  by TweetieBird in

  1. social
  2. humour

  even though this is primarily about coming out of the gay closet - it can also apply to coming out of the "apostacy" closet.. http://www.upworthy.com/a-4-year-old-girl-asked-a-lesbian-if-shes-a-boy-she-responded-the-awesomest-way-possible.

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  The TED talk was awesome. I love TED! There are websites filled with them and we should watch one a day. Keep us humble and learnning. Ash makes a great point-our bodies are not built for the stress of the closets we put ourselves in. I stayed in a bad marriage for way too long, but when I left it, finally, the closet that protected me as well as imprisoned me was gone. There is more than one kind of stress, people, right? But at least my wounds are all out in the open and now things can heal, rather than festering and killing me off. The crazy thing is that my ex-who was complacent about our bad marriage has had angina ever since he turned the kids away from me because of the divorce circumstances. I think he is now in a closet of his own making and its hurting him. I am not very sympathetic. He has been an ass and he knows it.
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  So proud to be part of an international "brotherhood"

  by ohnightdivine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  .... but doesn't even care about the "lowly ones" in the congregation.

  i think it's part of human nature to be interested in meeting people from other lands.

  in our case, it's the international assemblies.

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  Those people are everywhere, in every church, club, union-whatever. It does seem extra hypocritical in any kind of spiritual group, though, doesn't it?
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  An Ex-JW Legal Department, NGOs, ect…

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has the means because of the legal department to win cases in their favor, and appeal all the way up to the supreme court.

  the average person does not often have the resources to get equal legal representation.

  it is david going up against goliath, but in real life: goliath wins.. if only there was a legal department for ex-jws who needed it, whereupon they could get free legal help, not just on behalf of themselves, but who could win rights for the entire ex-jw community, even individual jws who need help against such a huge cooperation.. for instance, have you caught wind that the elders are doing an investigative committee on you, violating your privacy?

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  You all (in the US) can get legal advice. If you are in a pre-paid legal service, you could find out whether you have a (REAL) case and you could also get the lawyers to write letters for you to put the fear of the law in the WT if you actually DO have a case. The beauty of the pre paid legal services is that the ones with proprietary law firms get paid before you call-they have no incentive to tell you anything other than the truth about whether you have 'grounds' or not to bring a lawsuit. They have experts in all different areas of law whether it is constitutional, abuse,domestic, contract, whatever-they will give you the right one for your case.

  This legal advice can be had for a very nominal fee ($17 a month) and will cover all kinds of concerns/contracts/traffic tickets, etc. Most of us don't necessarily want to start a class action or change the world-we want them off our backs, to not interfere with our families, not harrass or stalk us, gossip about us or defame us. That is usually pretty standard stuff that can be solved with a letter. How many lawyers will write a letter for $17?

  They can tell you if you SHOULD start a big deal about something or help you figure out how to do so, but you don't have to start at the bottom or call the cheap guy listed in the llittle nickel want ads or something. Call LegalShield or Hyatt or Prepaid legal services. They all have plans, and most can be purchased without going through your company benefit plan.

  What you would like to do is a legal co-operative and lets face it, just getting this website managed/moderated is pretty much the limit-its a hassle for someone and most of us aren't volunteering for the duty. Its hard work! Managing a ex JW legal service is not feasable for anyone that I know of.
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  Independent verification of Mexico Vs. Malawi

  by Knowsnothing in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted on manki's crisis of conscience thread the following, and decided it deserves a thread of it's own (giving it was completely ignored, lol).

  i'll give you a head start, manky.. http://tearsofoberon.blogspot.com/2009/10/mexico-military-and-jwsthe-truth.html.

  under the subheading 6.0 lies and exaggerations, he goes on to say this:.

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  This entire debacle was multplied in its heinousness by the fact that the WTS refused to admit it was a religious organization for the sake of amassing property. It is disgusting that their own consciences allowed them to do this, encouraged JWs to be corrupt and bribe and furthermore was, in its two faced way-garnering sympathy for the unrelenting staunchness of the JWs in Malawi. Malawi was one of the things that fed every JW child's fear of armageddon and persecution. I know cause I was a child back then. This isn't all hypothetical to me and I wasn't in Mexico or Malawi. This was an everyday drama to JWs of the era. The WT used the brothers in both places to further their own interests and that infuriates me.
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  How old was Mary when she gave birth to Jesus?

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some say between 11-14 years of age.

  i guess god like them young.

  or no virgins around.

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  JWdaughter

  I think that in a typically insular way, we do tend to project our own cultural values and mores onto others-even God, himself. We also do it to ourselves calling men who are attracted to pubescent girls as pedophiles. Culturally, it is inappropriate for them to try to get together with them, however, it is not a pedophilic act to be turned on by a girl who has reached puberty. Yep, we think its kind of yukky (at best), but while they can do things that are abusive of authority or just plain sexual assault, it doesn't make them pedophiles.

  It is sick to us to hear of a very young girl being impregnated-and usually, in our culture, it means some sick and twisted things have happened. But don't put that on every situation, its a mistake.
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  A child that DIDN'T want to die ... a blood experience you won't read in Awake! or on JW.ORG

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while doing work for a client in her office recently, we got into a light discussion about religion.

  she knew i was one of jehovahs witnesses as our business relationship started while i was still a loyal and believing jw.

  anyway, i said something that she knew didnt quite fit and she said ... i thought you were one of jehovahs witnesses ... i shared my story ... she felt comfortable to confide in me a story as to why, even though she has had dealings with jehovahs witnesses who she thinks are good people, she would never even consider listening to them about their religion.. i asked her if she would write it down for me so that i could share ... she agreed.. this is her experience.. .

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  JWdaughter

  My cousin had leukemia and there was a blood issue. He was supposed to get a bone marrow transplant but his parents refused and by the time it got to the court it was too late. Blood is also used not to cure but to alleviate the symptoms (they gave it to my dad who had lung cancer to strenthen his system, not to cure him-he was very weak but nothing was going to 'save' him from the cancer). I think my aunt and uncle were pressured by the elders in this and I think it went to court just so that they could say that they fought it. My cousin, poor little guy, died. He was 6, I think. I actually think that the doctors respected them too long and they pretended to fight too long. I am speculating some, but I think they THOUGHT the doctors would intervene sooner and I think the doctors tried to 'respect' their beliefs thinking the parents would decide to do the right thing on their own (which I understand quite a few did, which is why the JWs now have such diligent hospital liason workers).

  The JW liason workers are scary. They stalk you before, during and after surgery to make sure you exercise your "conscience".
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  So I got engaged...

  by frogonmytoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...to my boyfriend, we're going to have one of those weddings ('gay' weddings to the straights).. although my jw family know i'm gay, and not going to meetings, only one of my sisters has sussed the situation.

  but i think after 3 years it's about time i told them.

  especially if sometime in the future i'll turn up with a (gay) wedding ring.

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  JWdaughter

  I think if you get married to your boyfriend, the deciding to leave the JWs will be pretty much taken out of your hands as a decision for you to make:)

  I think it would be more fun to go with a bang since you know it is inevitable that lots of fur will be flying.