mad. . . you dont buy it either, you just yhik it is the lesser of the evils.
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Still pointing your Finger when having a Rafter in your eye?
by DocHouse inyes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
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Poster country flags and privacy
by Simon inthe new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).
before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.
first, the reason i think it should be shown:.
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Being absolutely selfish, I would put my state up! I'm blessed in that I have nothing to hide or anyone that would care to out me on here. I do think that if folks have given out too much info on one name and Simon decides to let us have our flags again, then maybe they would change their handle and be more discrete in the future. It would be a PITB for someone who is popular here, but I guess that is the risk that any fugitive takes. And how pathetic is it that a person would have to worry about such a thing? Former adherents are FUGITIVES! How messed up is that???
Personally, I'd just throw any accusers accusation right back at them while denying any claims. Think about it-the accuser is using the site enough to recognize an anonymous poster by details given over years of involvement. Just throw the accusation at them while lying through your teeth if you wish. The Elders can't "prove" anything. They are just waiting for your submissive acquience to being 'caught'. Don't give it to them!
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Pagan Origins
by tinker ina currently active jdub acquaintance occasionally stops by to say hello and we share a wee dram or two.
after the general small talk of new cars, exotic vacations and sports we often get into the "why" we are xjubs.
he is a well educated publisher who holds a phd in child psychology.
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I was invited to the Kingdom Hall and nobody greeted after five meetings
by Trailer Park Pioneer in"i felt like it was "bait and switch", no "loving brotherhood :(?".
interesting question posted on yahoo, the problem is witnesses are not telling the truth.
how many times did you experience people not saying anything after some prolonged illness or separation from the kingdom hall for work reasons?
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Should I even bother telling someone what I think of their parenting . . . .any advice?
by skeeter1 inthe situation: a neighbor's child and mine have played together for 8 years.
her mother is a single parent, and a probable narcissist.
loves designer clothes, bentleys, money, will not date a regular joe or even a rich man who doesn't drive the right car, wear the right clothes, etc.
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Reporting that a child is being offered alcohol and drugs is something that you should do. The mom won't listen to you, but if the state is butting in, it might be something she can 'hear'.
Don't play elder-report the child endangering act.
If you can positively influence that child, it would be great so long as you can avoid your child being influenced by her. Poor kid probably doesn't get to do anything with the adults in her life BUT party-so that is fun to her. Even negative attention is better than no attention to someone so young.
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NEW LIGHT ALERT! TARGET 2015 END TIMES! EVE WAS CREATED 40 YEARS AFTER ADAM! THE END IS NEAR!
by Trailer Park Pioneer inthis is going around the kingdom halls now, i thought it was a hoax but are not all the end time dates produced by the organization some hoax or con?
the reason why the end did not come in 1975 was the watchtower society had not put eve's creation in their equation.
i was told when we had a "meet and greet" if "we knew the date of eve's creation we would know the year jehovah was going to destroy the earth.. it's been 40 years since 1975, can you believe it's been 40 years since "stay alive till 1975!"?
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After 2015, the number 70 will become significant. Then 70 x's 77! They could play with that so long that NO ONE remembers 1914 anymore.Link +1 / -0 -
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Early Morning Informal Witnessing, Yay!!
by kairos inhow many of us would get up and "start your time" by 6:00am or earlier?.
i sure did my fair share and convinced many others to join me semi-regularly.. we'd stand out in front of "somewhere/something", you remember?.
donut shop, 7-11, liquor store ( genius ), driving to laundry rooms or coin-op's, etc... anyway, this past sunday i was pumping fuel for the long trip home early in the morning out of l.a. to norcal, when i spotted a young, energetic version of myself 20 years ago.
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Me and my brother.
by nicolaou inan earlier discussion has been highlighting the differences between da'ing and df'ing.
xena said:i am sorry qadreena but i have never in the 20 some odd years i have been a jw ever heard of an unbaptised publisher being d/aed...marked as bad association yes..but d/a...no...but i guess stranger things can happen.... well that brought it all back.. actually xena the exact same thing happened to my brother in the early 80's.
he was only 14. he'd carried on associating with a friend of his who'd been disfellowshipped.
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Nic, you made me cry. I was 15 when I was DA'd. Not for anything particularly valorous like standing up for a friend!
Your poor brother! He hadn't learned much of the TTATT, just enoough to know to be loyal to a friend. I think that the WT creates a lot of the trouble that they see in ex JWs. Totally alienated by your society leads to outlaw behavior as you struggle to find a place. I am so glad you have each other again and especially that he overcame that early trouble became the man that he has.
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Pope's Powerful Christmas Message
by skeeter1 inpope francis has denounced the "brutal persecution" of religious and ethnic minorities, in his traditional christmas day address.. in his second "urbi et orbi" - to the city and the world - christmas message, the pontiff highlighted the plight of victims of conflict in syria and iraq.. "too many people are being held hostage or massacred" in nigeria, he added.
pope francis also urged dialogue between israelis and palestinians and condemned taliban attacks in pakistan.. tens of thousands of people turned out on st peter's square to hear the argentine pope deliver his annual message.. he said christians in iraq and syria had endured conflict for too long, and "together with those belonging to other ethnic and religious groups, are suffering a brutal persecution".. "may christmas bring them hope, as indeed also to the many displaced persons, exiles and refugees, children, adults and elderly, from this region and from the whole world," the pope said.. .
******and, what did the governing body talk about when they addressed the world of jehovah's witnesses earlier this month?
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I think the pope has actually done things. A speech is just that, but he has been DOING things that are shaking up the church. Excommunicating thugs and criminals. He has set up meetings with abuse survivors and has set up a commission to truly address the issue in the church and demand accountability. That is already a 100% more than the WT has done for the victims.http://www.alternet.org/world/pope-appoints-british-child-sexual-abuse-survivor-church-commission
I don't defend a church. I am commenting on the lesser of the evils and right now, the WT is making the church look relatively good.
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Status of people shunned before rule change?
by rebel8 inback in the early 1980s, some congregations were "disassociating" unbaptized people who committed alleged disfellowshipping offenses and weren't repentant.
it was announced from the platform in the same way, "so and so is disassociated," followed by 1 scripture about shunning and another about the specific sin that person had committed.
the ritual shunning was exactly the same as dfing.
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I was DA'd and no JW outside of my family ever spoke to me again. My mom went through a few times when she refused to speak to me, but she got over it. My dad is dead now and he was what kept her from letting it go on (cause he liked me and was not a JW) so I don't push any of her buttons and she tries not to push mine. I am much better at it though and put up with a lot of the JW speak if only because she really isn't even realizing half of it. The other half-well, I can make her a little nuts by NOT responding/reacting and that is as much fun as an lively discussion thatI KNOW she wants to have and Im not rising to the bait!
My aunt is a pioneer and was DF'd several times. She talks to me. Lots of JWspeak but I just let it float on by. . .she is (not to be unkind) lacking in every kind of smarts. As she isn't doing drugs and drinking, she is probably better off a JW. They ruined her in her youth, but now that she has nothing left, they are some sort of comfort to her. It is sick, but what are you gonna do? She converted her poor (4th) husband. In her late 50's, it is probably as good as she is gonna get. She is a sad case.