Posts by JWdaughter

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Dear typer-ers, you're doing it wrong!

by Simon in

there are many things wrong with the world, many injustices and crimes committed.

what if we could stop one of them?

wouldn't it make the world a slightly better place?

JWdaughter

Wow! Being an old fart (and yet, under 50), I didn't know that other posters were insulting me with their spacing and being dismissive of what I have to say-before they even know it will be me posting. I WILL take my revenge when it happens again

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Need advice on a comeback to my wife: when she is in cult mode she says faith without works is dead.

by goingthruthemotions in

so i have gotten into arguements with my wife in the past about this cult.

now a days after reading steve hassan books...i just try and avoid anything jdub with her.

try to keep her in authentic mode..(not sure she really has one).

JWdaughter

I keep hearing these kinds of things from folks married to JW drones and just from my experience with those in the org or any kind of fundy mindset-reasoning only works in your head. Don't let it get to you. Smile,, nod and go on to some other subject or they will make you as crazy as they are.

There is no "comeback" for cluelessness, denial or insanity. Comebacks are just the great lines we think of after it is too late to deliver them. It's pointless to try to change their minds when they are in cult mode, there are no effective words. Just talk to her like a real human when she is in THAT mode.

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Jehovah's Witnesses recover best from surgery, despite refusing blood.

by nicolaou in

that's' the headline of an article in the sydney morning herald.

my jw family are sharing it with glee on facebook right now.

here's the link; .

JWdaughter

I read of the study a few months ago (if the same study) and my understanding is that these were for not urgent/emergency surgeries where there was plenty of time before hand to make special preparations such as improving the patients overall health and diet and boosting their systems in various ways before hand. It wasnt a fair comparison, really, since they weren't measuring the patients who had all the same preparations and then either rec'd blood or did not. The condition of a patient before going into surgery is critical. The JWs are choosing more skilled surgeons that feel up to the task. I suspect that were it all compared apples to apples, that those rec'ing blood might well do better. . . In fairness though, I think that study SHOULD be done because I am not set out to prove that blood is some magic panacea in medicine. It should be used judiciously in any case and on a case by case basis, there might well be a good reason to choose not to take blood.

But,, when it comes down to it and there is an unexpected loss of blood (and that does happen in enough surgeries that it must be considered), then blood is usually a better choice than exsanguination!

I would hope that whenever possible, all possible preparations are diligently carried out for all patients who anticipate surgery so that blood isn't necessary. When it is given as a bandaid for unskilled surgery, then you will have more issues. I don't need to be defensive of(or in favor of) blood transfusions for the halibut, I am just defensive of the patients who honestly need a transfusion. Getting a transfusion unnecessarily is no wiser than refusing one unconditionally.

Maybe we should all seek out doctors who are comfortable with doing bloodless surgery while letting them know that in life/death situtations, we will accept the blood. Could finally get something useful out of our knowledge of the WTs teachings. Have our cake and eat it too.

That seems kind of mercenary of me, doesn't it?

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The boy who came back from heaven (the book), a hoax.

by James Mixon in

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friends

oh really.

the boy was six year old when he said he was in heaven with the angels.

now he admit it was made up for attention..

JWdaughter

I remember when I first heard it mentioned with the name and I figured it was a parody or a joke for awhile (I hate those kind of stories-heaven, hell, ghosts, angels, limbo stories, whatever-its all malarky!) When I realized they were seriously trying to say it, I just figured its another person taking advantage of gullible people.

I believe in God, and I believe in heaven. I don't believe those people's stories for half a minute. Sometimes they are heartwrenching and you WANT to, but the exact part of my gut and my brain that DOES believe in a creator rejects those stories reflexively because I see them as cries for attention (which this was, coincidentally). Surviving a horrible accident or tragedy is amazing enough to get my attention and empathy. Tall tales, not so much.

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New BOE letter: Re: Survey on Use of Printed Publications

by pixel in

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: survey on use of printed publications .

dear brothers: .

the branch office is working on arrangements for the 2015 regional conventions.

JWdaughter

My goodness. The amount of energy it will take the guy asking everyone is ridiculous for the amount of money they will save on printing their little "schedule". Seriously, what are they? 2 pages? And the conventions keep getting shorter-maybe not even that.

They could merely announce the option and guess on the high side because it is going to cost some guy a lot more of his TIME than the $2-5 bucks it takes to print ALL of the congregations programs. You know many will totally love the electronic. They can count on it and guilt people out about it without making some guy ask 30 heads of households stupid questions.

That it has come to this (electronic programs) is not a surprise, but that they are making it into a make work chore for some overburdened secretary already is obnoxious. To save at most-$5 per congregation-which will donate probably a couple of thousand directly as well as subsidizing their hotel rooms and travel expenses generally throughout the year by staying in their assigned hotel 'choices'. Guess! If you get it wrong it won't be a tragedy. Same crap as last year.

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New Article in JW.ORG "Should Christians Drink Tea?"

by EdenOne in

should christians drink tea?.

would you like a cup of tea?.

this seemingly innocent question has been asked countless times, and is regarded as a gesture of courtesy and hospitability in many parts of the world, in both eastern and western culture.

JWdaughter

I just saw this and while I suspected parody from a quick scan, I also know that the WT will, if inclined, find a reason to make a stupid rule and impose it on JWs.

Makes me thirsty, I'm getting a cuppa! Anyone want to join me?

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Conti Appeal Preview - Oral Argument Jan 14

by Chaserious in

with hopefully a good deal of interest here in the conti appeal tomorrow (or later today, depending on where you are), i thought that on my ride home from work tonight i'd preview what to expect and what i think the key issues are for any who are interested.

i have had a busy few weeks and haven't had time to read everything, but i had some time to look at the appeal briefs during my work commute the past couple days.

it'll be interesting to see what develops out of the network news coverage of this case.

JWdaughter

They knew he had issues with young girls and they still ALLOWED him to go out in service, going to doors of strangers who had not only no knowledge of this man, but who were told that these people are "ordained ministers" which gives them a sense of security that was false-thinking that they represented a religious organization and had been in some way vetted by them to be decent human beings.

They failed when they didn't remove his publisher status. No (JW) sex offender that is known to them or can be known from police/court records should be representing (any) religion in any fashion.

Period.

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Conti Appeal Oral Arguments slated for 9 A.M., Jan. 14, 2014. Recap of Defendant Watchtower's Complaint of Errors for your info.

by AndersonsInfo in

conti appeal hearing-summary of watchtowers complaint of errors with plaintiff's reply.

the following statements were taken from the introduction of respondents brief a136641 -attorney richard simons' response for plaintiff.

defendants argue that the affirmative duty imposed by the trial court impinges on their religious freedom.

JWdaughter

How long is this step supposed to take?

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Called on a DF'd person today.

by kairos in

wow, what a surprise that was!.

i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

totally caught me off guard.

JWdaughter

My aunt was DFd and is now back in, drug in her poor husband and is a pioneer. God bless them, but they are a mess. He, almost 60, just got made a MS. Their KH,incidentally, has gone from 5 congregations (!) to 3. Yah,they have massive growth in the PNW.

Lost my own thread! . . . anyway, I never shunned her and she does not shun me. I am something between a little sister and daughter to her more than a niece-Ithink that has something to do with it. She sounds like such a JW robot sometimes that I just want to slap it out of her- but she was so messed up with other things for so long, that it seems the lesser of the evils of what her life has been. She DID leave and her life fell apart completely, got sucked into every issue imaginable with her family. Most had started while she was IN and her whole life was informed by the borg, so the WT really shouldn't feel proud of itself when lives collapse after leaving. If folks have a good foundation, (religion is part of it, not everything) then merely changing or even quitting a church should not send one into a spiral pit of destruction.

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Muslim saves Jews

by Giordano in

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/12/the-muslim-who-risked-his-life-at-a-paris-kosher-market-to-save-seven-jews/?hpid=z2.

on friday afternoon, as a string of terror attacks roiled france, 24-year-old mali citizen lassana bathily was at work in the underground stockroom of a kosher market named hyper cacher near the porte de vincennes in eastern paris.

he heard gunman amedy coulibaly enter the store and open fire, killing four customers, it was later learned.

JWdaughter

I think it says more about the general attitude of Muslims and Jewish people that in the heart of Paris, 2 Muslims were working in a Jewish(kosher) market and that one of them actually made a fairly successful rescue possible that would not have been otherwise. Those criminal terrorists WERE extremists. They weren't normal Muslims.

Nothing can excuse what those men did at the newspaper or the market. It wasn't self defense and it didn't "defend" Islam in any sort of way. All it did was make average Muslims a bigger target for haters.