Posts by JWdaughter

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The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

by TerryWalstrom in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k

JWdaughter

Terry, thanks. I am a fan of Reza-and I still love Cofty :)

I think some of the commenters have kind of missed the point of the posted link, but hey, they think all believers are delusional, so there is a foundational lack of respect-and I get it. I can't get angry about it, because I know the world I live in, and I know how much animus there is to religion.

I sent this to my mom(from the Youtube link) just for her to understand my ideas on it. I wish I expressed myself as well as Mr. Aslan.

(putting on my armor)

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

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i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

JWdaughter

In this time of identity theft, I try to keep my real name off the internet forums. I once put my email on a forum and had reason to regret it later, so, think hard about what you have said, what you will say and how much you have to lose. Even if no JWs connected to you do anything about it, there are some crazies online (JW and otherwise) who make it their life's work to destroy others-just because they can. I have seen one specific incident online that was actually devastating to a family and career. I have seen others who have had their lives exposed online in very ugly ways just because someone didn't like their opinion. JWs and ex JWs have done these things. So called Christians have. People can be ugly and you don't know who ANY of us are.

I like your cojones to consider it, but it may be a bit of a Pyrric victory, if you know what I mean.

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The JW's were right!!! The government is starting its turn against RELIGION!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

this is what obama recently had to say about religion and how it is causing problems in the world... the prophecy is coming true!!!

we apostates are doomed!!!.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=afndil42e20.

JWdaughter

"We see faith driving us to do right. . . "

This isn't against religion, it is against terrorism. It isn't against religion, it is against those who CLAIM religious authority to commit atrocities.

He recognized that religon can perpetuate profound GOOD, but it has, throughout history, been corrupted by men-which is when the inquisition/crusades were mentioned.

"there is a sinful tendency in us that can pervert and distort our faith"

"God compells us to try" (to counteract intolerance)

I thought it well balanced and fair (from the little clip available.) I wish he had a better solution than "god compells us to try."

I like Yoda." Do or do not. There is no try"

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QFR How should Christians view fortune cookies?

by truthseeker in

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this is crazy..... .

questions from readers.

how should christians view fortune cookies?.

JWdaughter

Eh, that this even comes up shows what a killjoy religion the WTBTS/JWs can be. They didn't need to write it-we all know exactly what the article would say, right? (see above)

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Field Service Reports Count More than Showing Love - Ray Franz CF Book

by flipper in

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i've always suspected this was the wt society's view when i was in the jehovah's witness organization - but never knew the head of the writing committee karl adams had written a letter to nathan knorr ( then wt president ) recommending a change regarding reporting field service time as it wrongly emphasized jw members being seen as mainly being approved due to field service statistics - instead of emphasizing christian qualities of love, kindness, peace, etc.. karl adams had been personally handpicked by nathan knorr to be the head of the writing department.

in 1971 he wrote a letter to knorr which he wanted shared with the entire governing body as well .

i'll share the main parts of that letter.. on pg.

JWdaughter

Thanks for sharing that. It's a sad thing that they have become, isn't it?

My husband and I are in a business that operates on a network marketing/direct sales platform. We operate mostly with businesses and as an employee benefit(direct), so the network thing is pretty minor. The other day my husband got a kick down from his "upline" because he wasn't making him look good as he hadn't brought in any new associates lately. Well, we are promoting the service rather than promoting the business because we believe in the service. People who love the service and are inclined to business approach us, but we are not in the business of selling a business primarily.

JWs are more about promoting the religion (business) than the product (faith). That is why they are constantly compared to a (sleazy) network marketing business. Even the best business needs to remember that they are not worth anything unless you have something to offer people that has VALUE.

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First brand new Kingdom Hall built

by Kanon in

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well if you check the new pay attention at the meeting video their hall is one of the 1st.

flat roof, lots of glass and a jw.org logo.

lucky them

JWdaughter

Forget the roofs, did you see the kids faces on the drive home? I remember those looks on my own face-the "oh shit, I am IN FOR IT when we get home!" look. Usually at that point, you have already gotten arm and ear pinched to within an inch of what you can bear without hollering out loud, but you know that your mom (in my case) doesn't care what the neighbors hear when you get home.

Yeah, the lectures, the spankings. . . ah, the joys of meetings. I think I paid attention because I was always the goodytwoshoes (distinguished from my naughty twin brother), plus, I read a lot generally and am detail oriented. Paying attention at meetings for kids isn't the worst thing though, let's face it-the teachings are insane and I started getting the sense that something was off by the time I was 8. I WANTED it to be right, but it just isn't. So, I was paying attention. It got me out before I was baptised or even 16 years old, so-good for me! KEEP LISTENING CALEB! You are no dummy! You are gonna figure it out!

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New panel into historical child abuse allegations - UK Goverment

by Da.Furious in

home secretary theresa may says she will establish statutory inquiry with a new panel into historical child abuse allegations.. it will investigate whether "public bodies and other non-state institutions have taken seriously their duty of care to protect children from sexual abuse in england and wales".. full article on bbc news.

da furious.

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JWdaughter

It's about time that govt did that. It's too prevalent everywhere and too long been swept under religous/non profit rugs.

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Send money to KH in lieu of flowers.

by Jack Miller in

"in lieu of flowers send money to the kingdom hall"..... wow.... this young woman's jw servant husband was caught cheating on her again with another jw "sister", but when she told her husband she wanted to forgive him again and continue with her marriage, he told her he didn't want that.

he wanted her to simply move on with her life.here is how she moved on: she put on her wedding dress, got into her car in the garage and started it.

do you think finding her this way spoke louder than any suicide note?

JWdaughter

That's just sad. I think when something like that happens to a woman, they worry a lot. I have a friend trying to leave an abusive marriage and she has so many worries about what will happen if she makes the final break that she isn't even able to see how much the status quo is killing her soul, day by day. How will I survive? How can I stay in this, but how can I LEAVE? The failure, the condemnation that everyone gets in a divorce (whether deserved or not, we all get those messages from those we love the most).

The husband is apparently an ass. I hope no one sends money to the hall. NO ONE!

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South Texas Introduction

by artsteel in

wow, amazing to read all these experiences.. luckily, i walked away from them 20 some odd years ago because i wasn't making it financially and decided to pursue higher education.

best decision i ever made.

i was able to finish my degrees and i still shake my head at how these people really believe, really mind boggling.. most family members and friends i knew stopped talking to me, and up to this day i'm glad they did.. .

JWdaughter

Galveston area, here! Welcome to the forum.

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Sam's watch

by Slidin Fast in

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i just started to watch the february broadcast when i noticed a metallic rattle over the drone of sam's voice.

(does that man speak with a mouth full of chowin' tobacco or is he choking on the rubbish he reads off the autocue?).

yep it's his rolex.

JWdaughter

Why would a person who is a GB minister and who labors for everything he gets and lives a monastic lifestyle NEED a dive watch? How many missionaries can afford that kind of hobby? Even if it is just a nice knock off, its kind of pretentious for someone who makes $100 mo plus room and board. They go on luxury vacations to warm scuba kind of places much?