Posts by JWdaughter

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So heres latest from local hall

by poopie in

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a friend of mine that is df went to hall today someone held door for him he thanked them ,soon after and elder aproached wispered in his ear "you cant talk to anyone" the pharisees .

An elder, Chief MD in Honolulu clinic goes door to door. Testimony given at JW convention

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.pressreader.com/usa/honolulu-star-advertiser/20150725/281848642300889/textview.

it sounds to me like he was a jw before he became a physician.

"kalauawa, who became a jw 31 years ago, said he had to overcome a major conflict between his religious and professional beliefs, because jws are opposed to blood transfusions.

JWdaughter

I think the only conscience issue they have a right to as doctors is about killing or abortions. They are obligated to administer the most appropriate medical treatment for their patients.

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An elder, Chief MD in Honolulu clinic goes door to door. Testimony given at JW convention

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.pressreader.com/usa/honolulu-star-advertiser/20150725/281848642300889/textview.

it sounds to me like he was a jw before he became a physician.

"kalauawa, who became a jw 31 years ago, said he had to overcome a major conflict between his religious and professional beliefs, because jws are opposed to blood transfusions.

JWdaughter

His ordering blood for them would not conflict with JW teaching about abstaining. It's not going in HIS body.

However

The mental gymnastics seem stupid. JWs hold that not only are transfusions are morally wrong to obtain, they teach that they are totally avoidable-so, if he really believed the best medical practices forbid it, he would have no such conflicts.

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Did you know that President Jimmy Carter used to be a Jehovah's Witness?

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.christianpost.com/news/jimmy-carter-says-jesus-would-not-support-abortion-revealing-only-conflict-between-his-politics-and-christian-faith-141881/.

carter said that as a young man he used to be a jehovah's witness before he was a baptist christian.. .

"it's hard to grow up with such a foundational system and just let it go.

JWdaughter

A lot of religiously based writing tends to ignore facts in favor of writing uplifting and encouraging things to promote their faith-based interests. they are manipulating bad news and discussing persecution. V.o.m has good intentions perhaps, but are flexible regarding facts and sources. Very propaganda driven. No journalistic standards. It's to raise money. Don't expect to find a lot of journalistic integrity in faith(any faith) based newspapers, blogs or newsletters.

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2001 Symposium on "Problems of Bloodless Surgery" in Moscow - Sherri Ozawa explains the HLC and bloodless medicine clinics

by OrphanCrow in

a few years ago, prior to researching the field of "bloodless medicine", i was under the mistaken impression that bloodless surgery was a field of medicine that sat "outside" of the watchtower influence and operated as a part of mainstream medicine.

since that time, i have discovered that "bloodless medicine" has been founded and maintained by the watchtower society itself.

bloodless medicine is the watchtower society - it has been organized by people who have been trained by the wts and therefore, the bloodless industry is controlled by the wts.

JWdaughter

I was bothered by the full time JW employee at a major hospital in tacoma who spent her Career dealing with JW blood issues. A nurse, she had access to patient records and decision making as well as obvious ties to the local JWs and hlc. No JW would have felt free to take any care accepted by the WTBTS. There was a fissure in their freedom to have privacy and make medical decisions. I rather suspect that whatever literature the provides to the medical establishment comes at a price, as well as training, speaker fees, etc. I am sure bloodless surgery development is funded outside the WT. Bet they are getting grant money funneled through the WTBTS in some way. They don't do anything unless they gain from it.

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How Far Apart Were Your Legs?

by Joe Grundy in

several threads on here about the excellent bbc r4 programme this week ('the report') focussing on rape and abuse in barry, south wales, jws.

fat pervert mark sewell later got 14 years and i hope he is enjoying every minute of it.. the courageous ladies who spoke on the programme were articulate, reasonable and made a tremendous impression.. the quote in the thread title made an impression on me, and i hope, on all listeners.. forget religious, theological, 'biblical' issues and cut to the basics.

a rape victim was asked to demonstrate - to demonstrate, ffs - to three unqualified (middle-aged at least, presumably) men just how far her legs were apart when she was raped.. i have rarely heard anything so outrageous, and i used to investigate rape and abuse in my profession.

JWdaughter

Blondie rocks!

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Ray Franz and You.

by John Aquila in

if ray franz would have kept his mouth shut and not disfellowshipped, and remained part of the governing body how many of us ex-jw would still be trapped in the cult?.

would we have come this far?.

JWdaughter

I exited shortly before hearing of Franz. Nice confirmation though. I did love learning his story bit by bit. No web then. This used to be a very lonely row to hoe!

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Recent Observation: "Even if it's true..."

by freemindfade in

has anyone else heard this said more frequently lately?

"even if it's true..." i have seen it said on here a few times in quotes from in family or friends responding the negative things about the org.. i heard it tuesday night again.

in a pioneer sisters comment.

JWdaughter

No, they skip over all the nice bits like love your neighbor, do unto others, etc.

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New BBC article on JW abuse

by snare&racket in

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is religion doing enough to root out abuse?.

he would go upstairs, on the premise that he was saying a prayer with his niece, then sexually abuse her.

mark sewell was sentenced to 14 years in prisonafterwards, the elders told her that as it was only her account against that of sewell, nothing more could be done.

JWdaughter

From my JW mom after I posted the link on FB.:

" I wish you would not discuss religion on facebook. I don't like you putting things on facebook about the withness's true or not. This is really none of your business since you don't believe anything about my religion."

From the lady who will go out in FS tomorrow to tell people about all the religions she doesn't believe in being Babylon the great.

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Recent Observation: "Even if it's true..."

by freemindfade in

has anyone else heard this said more frequently lately?

"even if it's true..." i have seen it said on here a few times in quotes from in family or friends responding the negative things about the org.. i heard it tuesday night again.

in a pioneer sisters comment.

JWdaughter

" I wish you would not discuss religion on facebook. I don't like you putting things on facebook about the withness's true or not. This is really none of your business since you don't believe anything about my religion."

In my email yesterday. Later she said I should pick on Catholics(not that I believe anything there, either).

The FB article I posted discussed at least 4 religions,problem is the WT got headline status for a change.