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  Hello

  by Munster Abu in

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  new here but looking forward to joining in some of the discussions with you all.. a small bit about me: i'm shane.

  was raised as a jw in the uk by my mum (single parent family) from about 2 years of age.

  got baptised at 15 for all the wrong reasons.

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  Welcome!
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  Ray Franz was an Idiot

  by vinman in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

  i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

  in search of christian freedom?

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  No matter what I believe, I am not calling out others as idiotic simply for disagreeing. Its disrespectful and is a hangover reaction to being in a fundy religion. If one goes from disrespect to disrespect every time others disagree with them, then the problems and intolerance they had in one belief system will simply get a new brand of ugly.

  I dont understand why ugly hateful words have to be used when it is possible to have reasonable discourse and disagreement.
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  help me understand: My wife seems to be utterly detested by skelletons and skulls. Why?

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, here i am again....asking more questions to help me understand my wife.

  she was brought up in the cult in the 70's and 80's.

  so i can only imagine what kind of indoctrination she deals with.

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  I dont have an irrational response to death, skulls, skeletons, but I am not attracted at all to death culture or ed hardy styles or any of that. I do associate it with some negative stuff, but that has less to do with the borg than it does with life experience. Im not attracted to darkness or death.
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  A True Story: PORTRAIT OF A GIRL and her dog

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  portrait of a girl and her dog.

  (a true story by terry edwin walstrom).

  her name was cheryl ann draper and she was about 11 years old the day she begged her daddy, who worked at a gas station, to let her go with him to work.

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  Terry, you touch my heart a lot. Thank you for telling us. you just gave that little girl a longer 'life' as more share her memory.
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  WHAT ARE YOUR MOST VIVID, ODD, or FUNNY Memories of Conventions and Assemblies of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by Balaamsass in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  share with us memories of the bizarre, funny, strange, what you hated, what you miss...we all have them.

  (question..why the big to do between terms- convention and assembly .

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  The year Michael Jackson, along with an entourage arrived at the Kingdome In Seattle. There were large limos and lots of big black guys. Had he really wanted anonymity, he wouldn't have come in a limo to an area no one else could park and make a spectacle out of himself. 3 guys no one makes special note of. . 8-12 is hard to miss, especially when they are huge and dressed better than anyone. I never saw them after that as im sure they had some VIP area set aside. This was mid 70s when the kingdome was new and cool.
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  Gettin' my garden on - looking for inspiration! !

  by Mary J Blige in

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  2. physical

  gardening is my physical activity thing.

  i like to have a productive garden but dot it with a bit of pretty.

  the front lawn is around 40m2 and i am converting it to potager this year.

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  Nicotiana is wonderful to plant by windows. White smells amazing and they glow in the dark. I 2nd the recommendation.
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  Gettin' my garden on - looking for inspiration! !

  by Mary J Blige in

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  2. physical

  gardening is my physical activity thing.

  i like to have a productive garden but dot it with a bit of pretty.

  the front lawn is around 40m2 and i am converting it to potager this year.

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  I LOVE GREAT BIG HAPPY SUNFLOWERS.
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  Cognitive Dissonance Runs Deep

  by vinman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while it is true that maybe 1 or 2 things woke you up (like myself), it is interesting to reflect on the reality of what you did not believe, even if you were a true believer and would of died for the organization.

  here is my list (not a complete list, i'm sure their is more).

  what is your list like?.

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  I was raised in it and left when young. I had an interesting thought, maybe. . .when I was growing up, I was told it was the truth(tm). I understood there could only be one true religion and that was it. What I mean to say is that I didn't think I COULD question anything. The cognitive dissonance bit in full force. . .I questioned a few things that didn't make logical sense to me as a child(at a home,Thurs night, bookstudy when the wtbts answer in the book was stupid) and got scolded for it after my mom was counseled and she was mortified and I got huge spanking for my question. Studies are not to learn, but to parrot. Anyway, I kept telling myself for years that I was bad,wrong, disobedient, ungrateful, etc for even wondering to myself.

  JWs like to say we leave for personal issues. . .and to some extent I think that's true. We usually stay in loyally for personal reasons, not so much actual devotion to the teachings. We let a lot of nonsense slide right by because on balance, it works. Many of us might not even question our own hypocrisy because our reasons for being a JWs are less spiritual than they are carnal, practical, familial reasons. BUT, have a personal thing come up that is connected to the WT and all the things that were easier to ignore suddenly become prominent or we no longer can ignore them or we realize how much we did so. The scale tips.

  Most religion doesn't make it so much of an all or nothing proposition. The WT loses people more than other churches because any questioning is quashed. Once we question a teaching unique to jws, we have to balance our relationships and personal integrity/conscience Even those who stay in, but are mentally out, know what it is and they all have their ties, but those ties are because a relationship requires staying. The JW affiliation only rests on the life of a parent or spouse. I think JWs are internally more fractured than other churches, but they require dissidents to play in order to maintain relationships. Everyone is trapped by their partner/family.
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  Some Bethelites are Jackasses

  by Old Goat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  rachael de vienne is one of the authors of separate identity, a history of the watch tower's earliest years.

  she's received low grade harassment from the watchtower for years.

  she posted about it on her personal blog.

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  This thread and the referenced blog are nonsensical.
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  Prof. Jason BeDuhn letter on the NWT/KIT (part 1)

  by bj in

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  2. friends

  some days ago i asked you if someone wrote to prof j. buduhn who is quoted in the watchtower 1 february 1998, p. 32. here's what i received from him.

  as every translation does.

  jesus one can say "my god.

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  I came across this today. . .is it just me or did we have a lot more scholarly types of debates back then? Now it all seems to be about playing "gotcha" with the org.