Posts by kid-A

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How do I have everlasting life?

by soulfinder in

here is a scripture that explains just that.. john 5:39-40.

39you are searching the scriptures, because you think that by means of them you will have everlasting life; and these are the very ones that bear witness about me.. 40and yet you do not want to come to me that you may have life.. jesus clearly explains that it is not through the scriptures that we have everlasting life.

it is only by going to him..

kid-A

"Y OU are searching the Scriptures, because YOU think that by means of them YOU will have everlasting life; and these are the very ones that bear witness about me. 40 And yet YOU do not want to come to me that YOU may have life."

YOU are sadly mistaken. YOU are going to die, just like me. YOU are simply terrified of your ephemeral mortality. YOU are using religion as psychological anaesthesia.

Now some inspirational words from Trent Reznor: Bow down before the one YOU serve. YOU're going to get what YOU deserve........amen!

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Anathema of Science and Religion

by LittleToe in

just a short "starter for ten" question:.

have you noticed how so many exjws are polarised as to their views of particularly science and religion?

some seem to take the time to get informed, and others are content to hold onto previous [mis]conceptions (most likely coloured by the wts) about science and religion being evil and/or corrupt.

kid-A

"Both have a plethora of subdivisions, but get generalised under the same topic head."

> Yes, a plethora of subdivisions in science, but that is of practical necessity. My discipline is neuroscience, and even a sub-discipline within neuroscience. That is simply because a researcher has to focus on a limited set of questions that can be practically answered by a single, well-equipped laboratory (with sufficient funding, no less!). Not sure what you mean by generalized under the same topic head. Just a quick gander at MedLine and you will see thousands of specialty journals, each dealing with a specific area of research. If you mean its all "science", sure thats true, but that simply refers to a common method of uncovering observable phenomena, common statistical methods and a generally common way to design experiments (even there, we have profound differences between the life sciences and the physical sciences). On another note, there is an active, if somewhat understated push within many scientific disciplines for a "grand unifying" theory, Im sure you are aware of this in Physics. But in Neuroscience, this has most recently been the collective effort to unravel the neural basis of consciousness, which includes scientists from the cognitive realm, animal and human researchers, imaging studies, neuroinformatics, information theory, computer modellers, etc etc.

In brief: We WANT to find out the answers. The religionists THINK they already have all the answers. This is why there will never be a unification of these two very different modes of information seeking.

Now, given the dvisions in Science, there really is no rational way to compare this to the "divisions" in religion. First, I am unaware of any bands of terrorists from the Physics department on the 6th floor plotting to bomb our biology labs on the 3rd floor..... Second, scientists, REGARDLESS of discipline, have mutual respect and admiration for our colleagues. Our divisions are not based on race, historical fights over land, sectarian divisions, bigotry and hatred as seen amongst Jews, Christians (catholics + protestants), Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, etc etc. As for religion being generalized under the same topic head, again, I would have to disagree. They share a common "belief" in the supernatural, but thats about where the similarities end.

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Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution

by zagor in

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study detects recent instance of human evolution by nicholas wadea surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of east africa.

it is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.. the finding is a striking example of a cultural practice the raising of dairy cattle feeding back into the human genome.

it also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level.

kid-A

"I have never seen any scientific evidence of a species DNA aquiring NEW information."

>Thats because "new information" has NOTHING to do with molecular evolution, anatomical or neuronal evolution. Mutations are merely the expression of ALREADY EXISTING information in a new format or template. Take an intro biology course if you dont understand this basic principle of genetics. You've been reading too much Watchtower science textbooks.

"The lactose gene was already there. "

>Yup! Exactly. See point above.

"The fact that it made news is because of the thousands of instances of DNA mutations causing negative consequenses, this may be one of thousands that served a purpose. Not evidence to me but more an accident than the norm."

>And so? Random genetic mutations are obviously RANDOM, and are only acted upon by ENVIRONMENTAL conditions. Your point has no bearing on any evolutionary process at the micro or macro levels.

"I will never understand how anyone can deduce that the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Entropy does not apply to all life forms and organic matter. It is a scientific, totally proven LAW of nature. "

>No, its not. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with biological or molecular processes in any pertinent way to evolutionary processes. And no, it is not a "law" of anything.

"Everything is winding down, everything decays into smaller particles. Our own DNA is decaying into more and more mutations until we too will die off as a species."

>Interesting, could you please provide PUBLISHED, replicated research reports from a reputable scientific journal demonstrating conclusively that "our own DNA is decaying into more and moremutations" ??? I would be very curious to read your source material.

"There is no scientific evidence that we are evolving into a higher life form. On the contrary the evidence shows us devolving into a violent species headed for total nuclear annialation."

>Nor should there be. Again, this statement underscores your complete lack of understanding of how evolution works. First, can you even define a "higher" life form? This is a COMPLETELY subjective opinion. Indeed, I would argue that sharks are far better adapted to their environments and environmental needs than humans are. There is no imaginary "upward" trajectory in evolution. Again, what EVIDENCE are you referring to about human DEVOLUTION? Or is this just a personal, unsubstantiated opionion, full of fundy sound and fury and signifying nothing?

"I was part of the human genome project and my DNA line has grown so unstable I would not be alive but for regular medical procedures."

>This statement is complete nonsense. DNA does not "grow" unstable. Not to mention the fact that there is no such thing as a "DNA line". You possess a "genome" which is by very definition, a permanent part of your cellular processes. In addition, there are NO "medical procedures" that currently exist that can influence an entire genome. Where the f**k are you getting this bizarre, misinformation from? Kevin Trudeau??? LOL.....

"If there can be found one step forward in science, there will be five steps backwards associated with it."

>No problem. Given your low opionion of science, I suggest you unplug your computer (the creation of scientists), stop using the internet (the creation of scientists), throw out all your electrical appliances (all created by scientists), and move into your nearest cave with some sticks and a few matches. Next time you get sick, find your nearest witch doctor and have him cure you with some magical hexes, or better yet, pray to Jesus and see how you make out. You'll save a fortune at the pharmacy, lest you should be tempted to trust the technology and research of us idiot scientists....

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Post your Computer setup

by JH in

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since my dad passed away, i have his computer and desk now, added to mine.

so, in my small computer room 12 x 10 feet, i have 2 desks and 2 computers....lmao.

now, i don't know from which one to post from.. .

kid-A

Me in my computer room.....damn thing crashed again!

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animated CT Russell message....

by kid-A in

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kid-A

I think the creator of the avatar goes by the screen name "Ocelot", but is on another discussion forum. I would love to see a full length feature from this artist!

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Jehovah is like a dead beat dad

by MsMcDucket in

the kids don't know what he looks like or what he's like at all.

other men step in and run the family and you get treated like a stepchild or abused.

you want your real dad to come and get you; he's supposed to be so good; but he never comes.

kid-A

From the Acadian post:

"Regarding suffering that is the result of sin, what could be clearer than Romans 1:28–29 and Galatians 6:8–9?"

> And? Who cares? The self-righteous moral invectives written thousands of years ago by self-appointed "prophets" are as irrelevant today as they were then.

"The unbeliever may stomp about with all vigor and complain that it is "bigotry" to associate the rise of AIDS and other diseases to sin; that biblical morality is narrow-minded, outdated, and totally wrong. But this fact is unalterable: In a society where biblical morality is abandoned, suffering always increases. Where biblical morality is followed, suffering always declines. Always. (Isa.59:1-4). "

> Biblical morality? Excuse me whilst I puke! So AIDS is the result of immoral behaviour? This is so vile and offensive a notion I dont know where to begin. So I guess the babies of HIV infected women or the unsuspecting spouses of HIV infected people should be forced to suffer along with the so-called "guilty" parties? What assanine, ass-backwards morality! Your "bible" is arguably the most monstrous and vile book of violence, murder and mayhem ever "published" on the face of the earth!

"As to Hitler, Stalin, street gangs and senseless murders: Would any of these things happen if people followed the teachings of Jesus?"

> Hmmm, well lets see, the INQUISITION happened as a result of the "Christian" church so I guess it depends on historical perspective, eh? For the record, none of these things would happen if people followed "Buddhist" teachings yet I dont know of any wars or massacres being started by fanatical buddhists, unlike the "soldiers of christ".....

"Do you realize what this world would be like if people simply followed God's instructions? There would be no murder, no wars."

> Bullshit. Read your old testament, pal. According to your loving "god", we should publicly "stone" women for adultery, children for "talking back" to their parents, etc etc. Your god IS a god of war, murder, bloodshed and mayhem. If you doubt this, give the old testament a good read through just to refresh your memory. It is carefully detailed biography of a maniacal, arrogant sky-deity intent of exacting his holy wrath of vengeance on human beings who dare to question his dictatorial, pompous campaigns of self-aggrandizement.

"There would be no welfare, because families would take care of their own (and families would stay together) and those who did not have families would be provided for by their fellow-members in Christ. There would be no starvation…"

There would be no starvation? Why, would we all get Jesus green stamps in the mail? What of naturally occurring famines and droughts? Is your suggestion that if the whole world converted to your christianity all the naturally occuring food shortages would magically disappear? Not sure what yer' smokin but please do share! LOL.....

"I could go on, but the point is: God has provided us answers; whose fault is it that we don't seek them or heed them when we find them?"

No, he has not provided any answers (understandable since he does not exist!). However, assuming your hypothesis were correct (he/she/it does indeed exist) what kind of idiot provides an "answer" in 1000s of different holy books, using thousands of different "prophets", all with conflicting, self-contradictory messages? If your god really exists, he is not only inept and impotent, he does not even possess the intellectual capacity to formulate a clear, simple answer, and yet expects the human race to bow before his grand throne and worship his incompetence? I mean really dude, think about it.

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Article on Origins of Xristianity I Wrote REALLY UPSET Local Christians

by Seeker4 in

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i had an assignment to write a bunch of holiday articles that would be shared by all the various papers owned by the guy who owns the paper i'm the editor of.

after i'd had enough with the usual holiday stuff, i decided to get a little adventerous and expanded one in the series to include, not just the origins of christmas foods, but also some ideas i've been reading and watching about the origins of the chrisitain religion itself.. this is a link to the article, which ran a few weeks ago: .

http://www.messagefortheweek.com/main.asp?sectionid=1&subsectionid=20&articleid=849.

kid-A

Excellent article and well presented.

I too am always amazed at the ubiquitous ignorance of the majority of religionists (be they xtian, jewish, muslim, etc) as to the true and genuine origins of their

"faiths". It's ironic, nobody bats an eyebrow when the origins and real history of the so-called "dead" religions, like those of ancient Greece and Rome or Egypt are

analyzed logically and critically. I fear we will never be able to freely present our examinations or analyses of these real origins until all of the "current" mainstream

religions take their inevitable place amongst all the other ancient and dead religions.

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Baptism and At What Age?

by karnage in

i have seen and noticed that most people who are raised as jw's get baptized at a young age.

ages like 14-19. how is it that someone can dedicate their life to jehovah at these ages, when maturity is still in development?

this seems to be something that jw's push and practice on a regular basis.

kid-A

I was like you, faded out after fighting off baptism pressures before the age of 18.

I think 16-18 are crucial years and many young dubs will either decide to leave or stay within these two years. Therefore, its extremely important for the borg

to assimilate them before 16, when the serious doubts really start to emerge in the maturing mind.

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Hello..need help...I'm on the brink of :(

by crazito in

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short story:.

never had a real religious formation until i met the witness in my teenage years.. not everything has been bad but most of my friends there and exwife have been cheaters, liars and hypocrites.... i called it quits this year as i could no longer swallow their truth.

i remarried a supposedly "christian" 23 yr old woman that has shown me how bad things are 'out here'.... regarding her i have a question... those of you that continue to uphold bible's principles and love for our dear creator please advise on the following situation:.

kid-A

That is the issue. Although it was an erroneous marriage to begin with, what's done is done and I feel totally accountable to God (not the watch) to now make this marriage work... to me this is like a teenage girl becoming pregnant out of wedlock and taking responsiblity for her baby as it is still sacred regardless of how it was conceived...

Huh? Teenage girl? Pregnant out of wedlock? Dude, she married you (i.e. played you) in order to get a quick VISA to the States. Thats all it was, and making this issue into a "religious" issue or bringing "god-guilt" into the equation is like trying to put a fire out with gasoline.

This is a practical issue, not a theological one. Take advantage of this loophole and run far far away from this chick.

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Otherwise Engaged...

by LittleToe in

just a little breaking news:.

after several years of a great friendship with diane (previously posted as xena) things have started to really come together recently and i've succumbed to making an honest woman of her (or at least as honest as it's possible to make her.

last night (xmas day) i popped the question and she agreed to marry me (i wonder if she knows what she's let herself in for!!!)..

kid-A

Congratulations Ross and Xena, what fantastic news!