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  The Dangers and Morality of Science

  by Big Dog in

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  with all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.

  now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .

  "jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.

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  kid-A

  Kid, but what if they do clone a person? Who are they a ward of, the state?

  I imagine it would just be a highly profitable private enterprise. If it is your clone, you have exclusive rights to your own genome and all the organs harvested from your clone. You would pay the private corporation for "growing" the clone (presumably we could develop an accelerated growth process). A headless body would lack any rights or protections as they would technically not have any conciousness, personality, would feel no pain due to know brain, all vital functions would be controlled artificially, hence the expensiveness of maintaining your own personal "cloned headless body". I dont see any need for the state to get involved if we are talking about headless bodies, without any human rights, consciousness, or feelings.

  This of course does raise an ethical question, because certainly only the very rich would be able to pay for this, at least initially.
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  The Dangers and Morality of Science

  by Big Dog in

  1. social
  2. current

  with all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.

  now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .

  "jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.

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  kid-A

  BD,

  Its a remote possibility, but of course, even a full clone would not be the same person in terms of personality, only genetically and biologically. The image of headless bodies is a little creepy but considering the possibility for saving so many lives, its seems less unsavoury to me. Besides, they would keep your headless clone locked up in a warehouse somewhere...you wouldnt even ever have to see it !! LOL, just have the professionals harvest it's organs when you needed them!
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  How to pick your wife..............

  by hillbilly in

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  a man wanted to get married.

  he was having trouble choosing among three likely candidates.

  he gives each woman a present of $5,000 and watches to see what they do with the money.

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  kid-A

  Old Soul, did you say H ?????????????????????????
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  Very few know even the basic doctrines of the Witnesses

  by joelbear in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  after 131 years of preaching around the world.

  its a losing battle.

  there are fewer people today in the us that know witness doctrine or what witnesses would call "the good news of the kingdom".

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  kid-A

  Kid-A, I can remember a slide presentation at my KH when I was very young that documented some of the stuff you mention like pyramidology

  Wow, I am shocked to hear that. My mom has been a dub since the 1940s, my grandmother since the early 30s and neither had any knowledge about this. Maybe in Canada they did a better job burying their history! LOL
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  The Dangers and Morality of Science

  by Big Dog in

  1. social
  2. current

  with all the discussion here about the dangers of religion, its morality issues, and so on i thought it would be interesting to have a discussion (especially given the large population of science oriented folks on this board) where we discuss the same issues with respect to science.

  now this is not meant to be some i want to go back to the dark ages thread, but more so that recognition that there are moral, ethical, and hell survival issues with science that need to be addressed.. michael crichton as most know is both a famous author and an extremely bright individual who attended harvard medical school, in his novel jurrassic park he raised some issues with science and its dangers: .

  "jurassic park was intended to warn the general public concerning the inherent dangers of biotechnology first of all, but also science in general.

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  kid-A

  I see no problem with human cloning as long as it is properly regulated. Imagine if we developed the capacity to clone only "specific" organs, or create "headless bodies" that were exact duplicats of ourselves genetically? We would essentially have access to a "spare" parts factory whenever one of our organ systems started breaking down. A clone, does not have to have "sentience" or consciousness, and therefore, no human rights.
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  How to pick your wife..............

  by hillbilly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a man wanted to get married.

  he was having trouble choosing among three likely candidates.

  he gives each woman a present of $5,000 and watches to see what they do with the money.

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  Then, he married the one with the biggest boobs.

  Its hopelessly shallow but alas I must agree.....LOL....after being with a flat-chested person and now a big boobied person, I must say I could never go back!!! LOL It just seems to add an entirely NEW 3rd dimension to everything!! LOL.
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  Very few know even the basic doctrines of the Witnesses

  by joelbear in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  after 131 years of preaching around the world.

  its a losing battle.

  there are fewer people today in the us that know witness doctrine or what witnesses would call "the good news of the kingdom".

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  kid-A

  The dubs en masse dont have a clue as to their history or doctrinal evolution because the WTS constantly revises their history to suit their present needs. They have consistently demonstrated that if they can control their past, they can control their future.

  Case in point, my mother was in shock and denial to hear that Russell had EVER dabbled in pyramidology....she did not have the remotest clue about this very significant part of the JW origins.......most have NO idea the witnesses used to celebrate x-mas or b-days.
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  Good God! Is my mother really anointed or skitzso?

  by plmkrzy in

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  2. friends

  is my mother really anointed or skitzso?

  ive been gone a long time without much internet access.

  a good thing or notdont know, but!

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  kid-A

  Religious psychosis is a well defined clinical disorder. Indeed, there are even brain imaging studies examining the specific neural regions that are abnormal in these people. I know of 2-3 JWs that were suddenly "annointed" at about the same time they went completely bonkers.
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  creationism in the us of a

  by googlemagoogle in

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  just read in the newspaper that some 54% of americans favor creationism and diss darwin.

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  i know, never trust a stat you haven't faked yourself, but... is creationism (especially yec) really that wide spread in the us?

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  Finally these children need to be given the opportunity to form their own views on how they got here.

  Yes I agree, however the point concerns the separation of church and state. Public education is an instrument of the state, and last I heard, the US consitution quite clearly defines a separation between church and state. "Intelligent design" IS a RELIGIOUS point of view. Anything pointing to supernatural causes instantly falls into this category.

  If parents want to teach their children that life on earth is the result of supernatural forces, that is their prerogative. The state has NO business in this regard. In Canada, we have no consitutional edict for the separation between church and state and yet we seem perfectly able to recognize the plurality of our society and to keep religious teachings COMPLETELY out of our public education system, as it should be.
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  Earthquake in the Middle East (Urgent)

  by EliJah in

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  2. beliefs

  19 and the great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell; and babylon the great was remembered in the sight of god, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath.

  20 also, every island fled, and mountains were not found.

  21 and a great hail with every stone about the weight of a talent descended out of heaven upon the men, and the men blasphemed god due to the plague of hail, because the plague of it was unusually great.. meaning: the nations are of the twelve tribes of israel in the middle east.

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  kid-A

  I tell the TRUTH, the others are banned.

  whoa.....are we talking "multiple personality disorder" here??? Sybil?? LOL