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  Death, is death our only destiny?

  by Blueblades in

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  soon after we arrive on this earth, we become aware of the most fundamental fact of our existence, that we won't be here very long.

  an average life span lasts less than 30,000 days.

  we sleep a third of that time, so the days we experience number less than 20,000. we may try, but we can't ever completely deny our mortality.

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  "How do you know this for sure, considering you are still alive? How do YOU know there is no life after death?"

  Hmmm, well to begin with, cellular functions require oxygen. Are you familiar with the CREBS cycle? Your consciousness is the result of neuronal ensembles firing within your cortex and brainstem, which also require oxygen and a blood supply. Now, last time I heard, the defnition of death precluded all of these functions, unless you have heard otherwise?

  The second half of your question is what I call intellectual nihilism. Why? Because you are attempting to apply an inherently illogical premise (the positive assertion that the human body or "soul" somehow survives death) and redirecting the onus of proof on me, however, I am not the one making this claim, which is based upon NO EVIDENCE whatsoever. EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS REQUIRE EXTRAORDINARY PROOF...................do you have any?

  I, on the other hand, can produce hundreds of years of solid, empirical medical evidence demonstrating irrefutably that upon death, the brain ceases to function, and ALL cortical activity ceases to exist.

  Naturally I can already hear the believer's rebuttal: Ah, but you dont KNOW that our "consciousness" is defined beyond the limitations of biology!.....However, I DO know this is the case. Do you need proof? Consider the hundreds of thousands of examples of people having their entire personalities, consciousness, perceptions changed simply as the result of a biological process happening within their brains....schizophrenia, alzheimers, LSD, the list goes on ad infinitum.....In short EVERYTHING you think, everything you are, everything you were or will become, is determined within an electrochemical synapse between neurons within your brain. Thats it. The cortex dies, the "soul" or whatever else you wish to call your "sense" of self or sentience, will die right along with it. I suggest you get used to this simple fact of life......
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  Death, is death our only destiny?

  by Blueblades in

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  soon after we arrive on this earth, we become aware of the most fundamental fact of our existence, that we won't be here very long.

  an average life span lasts less than 30,000 days.

  we sleep a third of that time, so the days we experience number less than 20,000. we may try, but we can't ever completely deny our mortality.

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  kid-A

  The religious can deny the biological reality of death until they are blue in the face. It does not matter. It is nothing more than fear of human mortality.

  At the end of the day, we are all going to the same place: 6 feet under.

  We really have two choices. We can obsess over the inevitable and waste our time and energy trying to dream up fictional fantasy worlds that await us after this life.....

  or we can live with courage, dignity and bravery, accepting that THIS is what we get and that each second should be utilized to its maximum potential, trying to leave a

  legacy behind us.
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  SCANNED MEMORIAL INVITATION

  by Mary in

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  someone was asking for a scanned copy of the memorial invitation, so here it is, front and back.

  i've uh, revized it a bit to say what they really mean.

  please feel free to distribute to anyone you think might be interested in attending.

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  Looks like they went with the "Willem Dafoe" Jesus this year!!!! LOL.......

  
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  What's the difference between humans and animals if there is no God

  by JH in

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  if there is no god, does this make us the most intelligent animal?.

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  "I just see danger in teaching our children we are nothing more than an animal because the implication is that we are not uniquely designed and created. We are just an accident, a 'poof' that just happened."

  How did our children get here? By some random conflagration of circumstances wherein a male human and a female human happened to meet, happened to start a relationship, and happened to have sex that at one point, resulted in conception, either intentionally or unintentionally. Nothing too magical about that, is there? Had I not been at a certain party on a certain night, in a certain town, I would never have met my wife.....its all completely random chance.....

  The point is, if we as individuals have arrived upon existence through a series of completely random coincidences and circumstances, why do some have such profound difficulty accepting the fact that the human species, as a whole, has arrived at its current level of evolution by an equally random series of planetary events?

  Similar to Kwins point, it is the teaching and indoctrination of religious belief (be it muslim, christian, jewish, whatever) and not science, that has led to 99% of the misery on this planet.
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  "Did not defile themselves with women"

  by Legolas in

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  so the 144000, wouldn't you say then are all men?.

  i can't remember what crap excuse they gave for that one to get out of it not only being men....but all the writer had to say was 'they were virgins' if it was both sexes.. what do you think?.

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  No wonder hermaphrodites never partook at the memorials!!!!!!
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  This board is not for me.

  by Wafe in

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  when i came to this board, i thought that it was for encouragement amoung people who had been treated badly by the wtbts, i did not understand that people were going to come here and bash god, his son and the bible.

  i could understand some embitterment over religion but some of you people are down right insulting.

  not to mention the fact that i have tried to contact others on the board and have had my messages ignored.. .

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  kid-A

  Jgnat, where did you find that picture of Agapa37 (aka def-d) ???? LOL...............
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  The Myth of Good and Evil

  by Lady Lee in

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  most of us, if not all, have grown up in a world where good and evil are opposites of each other.

  not only are they opposites they are at war with one another.. old western movies depicted "good" as the fellow in the white hat while the "bad" guy wore the black hat.

  the bible depicts evil as darkness and everything that is good as white.. these beliefs are so ingrained in us from very young ages.

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  I did not fully comprehend the mythological and sociocultural evolution of "good" and "evil" as concepts, until reading Nietszche's "Beyond Good and Evil", which is an absolute masterpiece and essential reading for anyone leaving religion behind them.

  IMHO, the root problem at the heart of all religious belief, is the futile attempt to quantify religiously contructed definitions of "good" and "evil". In simple biological terms, that which is good, promotes survival, that which is bad, threatens survival.....all the other convoluted layers society and religion has attempted to add to this basic premise leads to nothing but hypocrisy and circular contradictions.
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  Installment #1 - My first contact !

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i was born a nothing.

  that is to say, my family had no religion.

  in my early years, i never heard my dad speak of god, nor my mom of jesus.

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  kid-A

  I was born a nothing. That is to say, my family had no religion. In my early years, I never heard my dad speak of God, nor my mom of Jesus.

  LUCKY KID !!!!! lol............
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  The Atheist's Wager

  by nvrgnbk in

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  the following is the athiest's wager, given in response to pascal's wager( a flawed appeal to inspire worship):.

  you should live your life and try to make the world a better place for your being in it, whether or not you believe in god.

  if there is no god, you have lost nothing and will be remembered fondly by those you left behind.

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  kid-A

  "Error in case of "if there is God"."

  Really? Can you prove this statement? I doubt it.
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  The Atheist's Wager

  by nvrgnbk in

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  the following is the athiest's wager, given in response to pascal's wager( a flawed appeal to inspire worship):.

  you should live your life and try to make the world a better place for your being in it, whether or not you believe in god.

  if there is no god, you have lost nothing and will be remembered fondly by those you left behind.

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  kid-A

  Technically, this is an "Agnostic's Wager", since an Atheist, by definition, does not entertain the possibility of a god.

  An Atheist does not need to make a wager, he/she is happy to live their life as a self-actualized, biological human being, understanding their position within the evolutionary history of this planet and accepting the ephemeral nature of mortality with courage, dignity and bravery. Rather than as whimpering children scampering under the skirt-tails of some ficional sky-daddy.