'i'm starting to like you too much... i'm gunna try not to speak or see you for a few days' .
ok, i will post back here any more things i don't understand as time progresses .
and ladies, feel free to post anything you don't understand that men say, i'm sure we will know what is going on (not)!!
She could also be straight up trying to be honest with you.
ie She see herself becoming addicted and don't quite like that feeling. So she wants to baack it up a bit to get control of her feelings.
Hey Dude, maybe you got it like that. So as the rest have said ... ask her what does she mean by what she said. It can't hurt. Be a little bit vulnerable ... you might get a great experience out of it.
hello everyone.
have recently met someone, amazing person!
however have many questions about jw's and wt.
Hey Man. You sound like a really great guy.
She is a very lucky lady to have such a friend like you. It's great you are doing research to understand. As an ex JW female myself there is hope for the JW women. The one thing that is talked about in JW is that when a women lives it is always because of a man. Sooo with that being said there is hope.
Being a JW can strip a person of their individual strength. The religion thinks for you and encourages you not to independently think. So it does take some time to get on your own two thinking and reasoning feet. Some want to and need a partner or a freind to help them along. Just maybe you are that person for this JW. So keep loving her unconditionally. Understand that you probably will not be able to 'prove' teachings wrong to her because sometimes those are some of the last conditionings to go. Just read this site...even though most are ex-JWs they tend to still believe "some" of the dogma of the JWs. But the love between two in a relationship can be strong enough to pull one out of the cult. Supporting her emotionally is very important. The cult keeps the mind engaged but numbs the feelings. So feeling loved by a man to her is probably an awakening of her emotionally that she can not deny.
Also remember the guilt that is surrounding sex. That is a BIG thing for allot of JW women especially if they were raised in it and are still relatively immature experience wise. Be patient, Be unconditionally loving and give it your best shot. If she doesn't leave the JWs eventually then at least you can say you gave her a chance to experience true love and I bet she will not forget it. Even if she is not strong enough yet to stand on her own two independent feet.
Best wishes!
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please tell me that not all men are only interested in the size of a girls chest.. come on you men, restore my faith in males.
Just go to your average Strip Club and you will find all size cups. Not all mean like big breast just like not all women like big D*cks.
Personal preferance plays a big part. (no pun intended)
we push people away and keep them at a distance out of fear.
fear of getting close again.
many ex-jw's have an odd habit of pushing people away.
I have found that when I was a JW I had allot of a cquaintances and a few friends.
Now I have a few friends but very few acquaintances.
I am less willing to hang with people who seem to be judgmental (as I was as a JW). It just totally turns me off to being close to them. Not that I don't think they are good people because I do. Just I need to be able to discuss deep things with my friends ... my interests/feelings/experiences without judgment and without someone feeling like they "KNOW" something to the exclusion of others' journey and truths. So I am drawn to people who can relate to not the run of the mill topics. People who are really deep and open to vast possibilities. Need c ommon ground for friendships. That keeps my close friends down to a minimum. My a cquaintances end up being my friends' friends. And I am only around them when I go dancing or something like that.
I have found that a really good friend is better then 10 not so close friends.
or just attended during that time?
Or just attended during that time?
for those of you who will be disgusted that i even attended the meeting, let alone allow my son to give his first public talk tonight, please, spare me the shouting messages.
i take full responsibility for what i experienced this evening.
yet, i feel the need to share this experience that has me enraged.
Even better.
And by the way ... as your son picks a sport that he wants to get into might be good to encourage the ones that practice on Tuesdays and Thurdays (or whatever nights your parents go to the meetings). Gives him something better to look forward to.
for those of you who will be disgusted that i even attended the meeting, let alone allow my son to give his first public talk tonight, please, spare me the shouting messages.
i take full responsibility for what i experienced this evening.
yet, i feel the need to share this experience that has me enraged.
Well, I debated about whether or not to reply to this one.
It hurt my heart to hear what you went through.
Unfortunately, JWs way of praise for a young child can be very appealing. And your son quite possibly is feeling pulled from his gandparents to be a certain way and from you to be a different way. And that is probably very conflicting for him. I have a 12 year old and I know she has felt that in the past.
All I can say is get very close to you son - heart wise. That heart to heart talk you mentioned is a good thing to have ongoing all the time. Don't hide the experiences you have had in JW good or bad. That way your son will always know that Daddy will be honest with him no matter what. Tell him and show him that your love for him is unconditional rather he wants to be a JW or not. But that you don't think it is a wise choice because of (your experience). Our children are more mature then what we give them credit for allot of times. I have a feeling that 'unconditional love' will win him over to what is the right journey for his life. And I hope that's not being a JW but either way we have to love and cherish our children and support thier journey.
Bug hugs and good luck.
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i've been out of the jws for the last 20 years.
i remember when...the wts prided its self on having khs that were humble, practical and were't a showy displaythe wts was as militant as they are now.the elders weren't as cruel to their ownthe wts wasn't always puttong their hands in the r&f's pocket and demanding money.the conventions actually cared about the needs of the r&f by providing food and not making a bunch of rules about where they could eat and what they could put under the seat.. am i remembering things differently?
has the society gotten worse?
It's not just you. I was raised in it 1972-87. Got out while a teenager. Went back 1996-2002. It was much worse. Money hungry, more hypicritical, VERY controlling. Way more then I remembered.
Now I am out for good. I have closer.
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and i just wanted to know if i am the only one that felt that 'spirit' led them into the jw and the same 'spirit' led them out of jws???
a bit confused but loveing every minute of the peace,.
Thank you for that definition. :-)
Maybe I should be more clear when I say 'spirit'. I am talking more about the motivation from the soul that is not distinguished by words. Sometimes people talk about synchronicity. And being motivated by the experiences of synchronity. When I speak of spirit led I am talking about in the realm of things like that. Basically - Energy. Energy that is different and tangible but not physical nor easily defined in logical terms.
Of course one can choose to live a self directed life making each choice based on logic, knowledge and/or life experiences. Or one my choose to listen to and factor in synchronicities and the energy within that gives ones clues as to the best course to take. (Some call it the letting go of an ego driven life.)
As weird as it may sound ... that's what I am talking about. :-)
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and i just wanted to know if i am the only one that felt that 'spirit' led them into the jw and the same 'spirit' led them out of jws???
a bit confused but loveing every minute of the peace,.
Hello All,
I'm new here. And I just wanted to know if I am the only one that felt that 'spirit' led them into the JW and the same 'spirit' led them out of JWs???
A bit confused but loveing every minute of the peace,
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