Yes we were in during those years, She got out before I did which gave me the oppurtunity to shun her for her lack of faithfulness. 1975 was what we were all waiting for in Southern California Congregations. I know you have heard it all. I think it must have been even worse for us. We had an ex acid freak for the lead elder in Torrance. He was crazier than a rabid skunk. I have talked to a lot of 1975 survivors and not everybody had it as bad as the kids in my congregation did. It was so ...there are no words even for it. My mom got baptized but I was too afraid to be alone in a room with those elders. I had once been forced, dragged by the arm into the back room once for an inquisition about my best friends sex life. Like I was eve going to go there willingly to ask for favors. Oh please baptize me oh please please please...