Well, since there were very, very few people I felt really connected to, I'm sure of it. Same sort of fake smiles people use when walking past each other in halls at the office.
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Did you make artificial smiles at the hall?
by JH ini smiled alot at the hall.. but i think it was all artificial !!!.
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Question for ex-JWs who are Christians
by whyizit ini noticed that many who post here have kind of thrown the "baby out with the bathwater", when it comes to the bible and god.. i understand that there is a fine line between love and hate.
maybe they blame god for the deception.
maybe they don't trust anything to do with god any more.
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I would respect the wishes of the original poster and not butt in with my personal opinion.
I can appreciate your opinion. But I hearily disagree. If the original poster hadn't opened with a rather snide comment just begging for commentary, I probably would have ignored the thread. You can't poke a stick at a pit bull and then expect it to play nice, proclaiming "What did I doooooo????"
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Finding Love with a Former Jehovah's Witness
by The wanderer in<!-- .style1 {font-family: arial, sans-serif} .style2 {font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; } .style4 {font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: #e68500; } .style5 {font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: #ffc803; } .style6 {font-family: arial, sans-serif; color: #8fa7bf; } .style7 {color: #fe0003} .style9 {color: #8ea4bb} .style10 {color: #ffc803} --> finding love with a former jehovah's witness often times, i thought to myself whether or not it .
would prove to be an advantage or a disadvantage.
dating a former jehovah's witness.. advantage or disadvantage?
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I don't have any idea to believe that ex-JWs have any more "baggage" than people who were never JWs. Since leaving fifteen years ago, I've dated all of one ex-JW. All the other women I've dated were not.
I feel much more comfortable with the ex-JW I'm dating now than I ever did with any other women. She understands why I have deeply rooted, and stupid, problems remembering birthdays. She understands so much about me that no one else ever has. Maybe this has nothing to do with her being an ex-JW. But I think it does.
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Watchtower warns against "religious secrecy"!
by AlmostAtheist inevery once in a while i pop over to watchtower.org to see if there are any articles crying out to be mocked.
today i found a lovely example of the watchtower condemning others for doing something that it is also guilty of.
the irony is exquisite!
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It seems like they're trying to directly address masonic and pseudo-masonic orders.
It's funny how they just can't see themselves in the same light.
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All of us, we are wrong...
by daystar inso, 75% of the world's population is religious, believes in a higher power.
how can they all be wrong?
in the early 1600s, a great deal of controversy surrounded one particular astronomer.
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The basic accepted idea of reality is that it is that which is not based on our personal "take", and the basic accepted concept of fantasy is that it is primarily based on our own personal mental conceptions, yes?
I subscribe to the notion that it is much more difficult to tell the difference between the two than most people are comfortable accepting.
Reality for me, as a JW, was not based upon my personal "take". It was based upon what the WBTS told us was reality. And yet...
In fact, I feel comfy at this time accepting the notion that due to the nature of perception and how our minds like to deceive us, we cannot be sure at any time that anything bears a close relation to any sort of objective reality, if there is such a thing. For practical purposes, we must live as if certain things are true.
I will at this point admit that knowing what is wrong, is more easily achieved than knowing what is right. And all that said, I think you and I (if I read you correctly) end up with a way of seeing that is fairly similar, in practical terms.
Perhaps so, but I often find that very many of the "rights" and "wrongs" are relative. But this is a subject that I struggle with. Geesh, this seems anti-social. While I certainly do have an internal gauge dictating right from wrong... exploitation and the bending of another to my will being examples of "wrong". It's not so clear cut to me intellectually, especially seeing how we do manipulate people every day, whether we realize it or not, in small or larger ways. Is this only "bad" when we do this consciously? Might it be better to control it? I dunno.
I can imagine scenarios where "necessary evils" can benefit the greater good. And this sucks. It sucks because the belief that one person may have that it's for the greater good may be at odds with others. And for the greater good for whom? And it sucks because I feel a great deal of love for all and even something I can imagine as a "necessary evil" which causes others pain, disturbs me greatly.
But, I am digressing here. I find in my life (and everything really) that good things have eventually resulted from bad things, and vice versa. It is difficult for me to judge the value of the end results of a thing based upon this.
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Question for ex-JWs who are Christians
by whyizit ini noticed that many who post here have kind of thrown the "baby out with the bathwater", when it comes to the bible and god.. i understand that there is a fine line between love and hate.
maybe they blame god for the deception.
maybe they don't trust anything to do with god any more.
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Hmmm....funny...I didn't see it this way. Apparently you did.
Why else would whyzit make a not-too-subtle poke at non-Christians to begin the post? (Minor, I admit, but still, there it is, the hint that they'd just given up...)
Let's see what would happen were I to open a post suggesting all Christians to be superstitious morons and then smugly claim that I only want pagans to comment? Should I then not expect Christians to respond in defense? It would be disingenuous of me, wouldn't it?
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Buddhism, Taoism, Meditation, and any other Non-Christian Journeys...
by exjdub inthere have been a lot of christian threads lately, so i thought that i would open a topic for other journeys.
because there is no way i will ever be a christian again because the curtain has been opened and i can see behind it, however i have an open mind and have started some meditation practices.
i have been thinking about visiting a buddhist temple out of curiosity.
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- Contact the temple and ask.
- Broadly, the Western Mystery Tradition, which includes Wicca (recently), Freemasonry, thelema, Christian Magic, Tarot, Kabbalah, along with corresponding such with eastern tradional methods. (Of great interest might be how the chakras of the eastern traditioncorrespond to the sephiroth of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life.)
It is said that there is a common source for all religions and in their purest forms they are virtually identical.
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Question for ex-JWs who are Christians
by whyizit ini noticed that many who post here have kind of thrown the "baby out with the bathwater", when it comes to the bible and god.. i understand that there is a fine line between love and hate.
maybe they blame god for the deception.
maybe they don't trust anything to do with god any more.
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* * May I ask one thing of those who are here to answer the questions asked, and who are ex-JW Christians? Could you please, no matter how tempting it might be to answer back, ignore the posts that are NOT sticking to the topic? It is my hope that this will be a peaceful discussion and not a debate between Agnostics-vs.-Christians.
Sorry, whyzit. You actually opened with a challenging statement:
I noticed that many who post here have kind of thrown the "baby out with the bathwater", when it comes to the Bible and God.
I understand that there is a fine line between love and hate. Maybe they blame God for the deception. Maybe they don't trust anything to do with God any more
How could you possibly expect there to be no responses from non-Christians? If you had cut that part out, you would have gotten responses more closely resembling what you claim to have desired. Your keeping this part in indicates to me that you really do, perhaps unconsciously, want to see what the non-Christians have to say. Otherwise, why this statement?
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moomin
when you google "failure" you get those results.
Try it out.
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Oh no, happehanna. It's just been around for a bit that when you google "failure" you get those results.
Still funny though!