july 15th wt study edition (regular dumb edition, not the dumber one).
god's rest - have you entered into it?.
subheading, when someone we love leaves jehovah.
If one was raise in the cult. and never baptize and he told his mom
he do not want to be apart of that religion, and do not want to label
as A apostate. What,s the WT veiw. It make sense why his mom and
sisters have been pressuring him lately to come back, the Wt 7-15
re-enforcing.
i had my "awakening" about a year ago, after spending my entire adolescent life feeling as if i was the only one among my associates with my head screwed on straight.
i was appalled by the nearly universal ignorance and deplorable close-mindedness and stupidty of the jws, the arbitrary dismissal of all scientific evidence as mere "human speculation", etc.
the 2008 change in the definition of the "generation" (at age 18) is what made me seriously commit to an investigation of my long held beliefs, a belief system and world view that had been permanently graphed onto my still developing brain as an infant.. some things the bee hive subscribe to are so irrational, yet i still held firmly to the belief that they must have the "truth", since i still believed in the bible as the inerrant, completely inspired word of god, and jws were the religion that most stringently adhered to actual bible teachings in a majority of cases - ie - no hellfire, no immortal soul, no trinity, etc... after an exhaustive study of the organization's origins in the russell and rutherford eras, and their history of constantly revised doctrines, failed predictions, and absurd beliefs subsequently abandoned and revised only after the passing of time deemed them impossible, i came to the conclusion that they were not "god's channel", and they certainly had no claim to exclusivity as "god's only chosen people who would survive destruction".... so that lead me to the next logical assumption..if not even the jws have the truth, and all the other christian denominations grossly misrepresent biblical teachings and distort the teachings of christ, and compromise on the principles he taughts us to abide by...then god has no earthly organization..he has abandoned us to our own devices...he has left us all alone, and he has left us in this state of affairs for at least the last 2,000 years... after moving beyond the the typical jw dismisal of all science that could possibly contradict the bible and their beliefs, i took up an objective, unbiased, study of science...and what i discovered is that without any presupositional limitations to one's critical analysis of the fact...science's theory of evolution is the best explanation for the diversity and nature of biological life around us...i also discovered that although there is dispute among scientists as to the explanation for evolution or the origin of life itself...that there is no dispute as to the validity of evolution.. the fact that evolution happened and continues to happen before our very eyes is incontrovertible...absolutely indisputable when objectively evaluating all the mountains of evidence..multiple lines of evidence that all converge at one point...common descent..as but one example - the anatomical distinction between homo sapiens sapiens and homo sapien neanderthalis emerge at a certain point in the fossil record..and not coincidentally the mapping of the neanderthal and modern human genomes point to a genetic divergence at the exact same time as the fossil record indicates!.
Doubtful; We have all been there, you will do ok.
last friday, a woman i work with, who reminds me of scully from the x-files, asked me to hang out with her and her friends at a watering hole not that far from where we work.
she and her friends get off roughly an hour before i get off, and considering the amount of work i had on my desk at the time, and the amount of time i wasted on here, i knew it'd would be a while before i caught up with them.
so i told her i'll try, but i won't get off until roughly 6:30pm or later.
Misery; You sound just like my son, his social life, but he is
out, no tempting by satan.
paradox is one of those words that is difficult to understand (for me).. i was told this story by a co-worker.
a young man purchase a new car,.
his dreadful mother-in-law ask to borrow the new car, reluctantly he agree.. she drives a mile and lose control and crash down a hill and die.
Paradox is one of those words that is difficult to understand (for me).
I was told this story by A co-worker. A young man purchase A new car,
his dreadful mother-in-law ask to borrow the new car, reluctantly he agree.
She drives A mile and lose control and crash down A hill and die. The young man
lose his dreadful mother-in- law, but also his new car,"Paradox".
So when one is DF, they lose there family and friends, but they
gain freedom. Maybe I am reaching here with the Paradox, but what
do you think.
i don't believe that there is such a thing as a perfect, or an ideal situation.
ideal is the more appropriate word to use, because the word itself denotes a conception, a remote possibility, not a reality.
i'm asking you, in your lifetime, have you ever found complete fulfillment, or felt complete within yourself, and your accomplishments?
Misery; I hope this is on the same line of thinking.
Early stage in my life that would have given me fufillment.
Both times beleive or not basketball, a passion for the game.
A starter for my high school, played in the army and played
simi-pro, so you see I love the game. Around 1971 I was ask
to try out for the Lakers, but I was married one child and the
players wasn,t making the kind of money they make today.
A friend of mine played for the Lakers and he made under
$20.000.00 A year, plus I just got baptize.
The second time was when I served in Belize, I would work
out with the Belize professional basketball team, they were about
the same as A Jr. college team her in the US. But they ask me
to join the team, of course I could not, being A JW.
So in each case what if I had , even if I didn,t make the team
It would have given me fulfillment
i stop smoking when i became a jw, so for 18-19 yrs.
i stop.. this time around it,s very hard to stop.
any suggestion..
still thinking; good for you, I guess it depend on you will power.
No problem giving up drinking, but the smokes that,s another story.
Palm: I will look that up, living in California there will come A day
when you will have to leave the state to smoke. In Pasdena they
are passing A bill where you can not smoke inside your own Apartment.
IT,s A nasty and harmful habit.
i stop smoking when i became a jw, so for 18-19 yrs.
i stop.. this time around it,s very hard to stop.
any suggestion..
Thanks Mary.. Added to my list.
i stop smoking when i became a jw, so for 18-19 yrs.
i stop.. this time around it,s very hard to stop.
any suggestion..
Pcult, If that works for you , please tell. I have tried like hell
it,s tough this time. Thanks...
i stop smoking when i became a jw, so for 18-19 yrs.
i stop.. this time around it,s very hard to stop.
any suggestion..
I stop smoking when I became A JW, so for 18-19 yrs. I stop.
This time around it,s very hard to stop. Any suggestion.
i went to a sunday meeting recently (for family reasons).
it was the first meeting i'd attended in a few years.
i couldn't help but notice how utterly soulless it was.
How were the friends after the meeting? Were they standing
around in A jovial mood, talking, socializing or they left as quickly
as possible.
